Hood Code - Sign of a Broken Culture

[DBTrek]

Not my community to fix.
Don't really buy into the White Mans' Burden "We gotta fix everything" line of thinking.

But if the people living in those communities want to live in a way that doesn't put them under the rule of felons, and have them living in places where kids just get shot and killed and "oh well", then *they* need to get to work on fixing it. That's some seriously third-worlder mentality and lifestyle to be clinging to in the heart of the first world.

And if they don't want to fix it, fine. I'll thank out fellow great white saviors to kindly keep their hands out of our pockets while they continue their crusade to "save" the people who aren't interested in saving themselves.

Acknowledge the culture is broken.
Acknowledge it's not your culture, and you may be unable to fix it.
Start putting the burden back where it belongs, or you'll waste all your days squandering treasure and goodwill on folly.

[Viktorthepirate]

Not my community to fix.
Don't really buy into the White Mans' Burden "We gotta fix everything" line of thinking.

But if the people living in those communities want to live in a way that doesn't put them under the rule of felons, and have them living in places where kids just get shot and killed and "oh well", then *they* need to get to work on fixing it. That's some seriously third-worlder mentality and lifestyle to be clinging to in the heart of the first world.

And if they don't want to fix it, fine. I'll thank out fellow great white saviors to kindly keep their hands out of our pockets while they continue their crusade to "save" the people who aren't interested in saving themselves.

Acknowledge the culture is broken.
Acknowledge it's not your culture, and you may be unable to fix it.
Start putting the burden back where it belongs, or you'll waste all your days squandering treasure and goodwill on folly.

I get that. You’re making sense. You just define your tribe more narrowly than I do. And you’re not gonna get more any moralizing out of me.

But let’s talk practicalities here. And frankly DB, you’re usually pretty level headed on here, if a bit harsh at times.

This broken culture you’re referring to is spreading. Just acknowledging it isn’t your culture and not your problem only works if you don’t plan to have kids. And even if you make a lot of money and have kids, there is a decent chance they will fall out of your income bracket, statistically speaking.

So how do you fix this without shrugging your shoulders and saying fuck it? How do you fix it when the National culture won’t even take care of the people who they make a bargain with?

Or do you just try to outrun it until there is nowhere left to go?

[clubgop]

It’s obviously because of culture that Mexicans don’t stand up and testify about gang murders. Their own fault really.

You are comparing a broken country like Mexico to the US. This is why you are an idiot. You think Mexico is some spring break hot spot for rich American teens, a place to get your gardener. No, bitch. It's elections season in Mexico and over the past few months drug cartels have killed 87 elected officials or candidates for elected office in the country, not even south LA is that bad. We have violent gangs but they are fucking drug cartels. I know this disrupts your open border we ones collapsing fantasia, but it is true. They are not the same, you are just a pacifist, pussy dumb ass.

Who do you think is running South Central LA?

People like you that support an Open Border but want to confiscate law abiding citizens means to defend themselves? Yeah, I know.

[clubgop]

Wow, I’m blown away. Never knew we had such a gang of hardened killers on this forum.

See, if I was worried about my family’s safety if I reported crimes to the police, I may give it some thinking.

I may ponder if the 15 year old girl was a gang member herself. I may ponder if she was the same kind of person as those who shot her.

I may ponder if my family’s safety is worth me taking a stand for a stranger. I may weigh that against the fact that the last time I was willing to sacrifice for my community I got blown up in a Humvee and get $100 a month for my fucked up spine. And a couple pretty ribbons of course.

But nope, you hard core mother fuckers revealed me for the pussy I really am. Ya’ll wouldn’t even consider any of that shit.

I'm sure the hamburger stand was exclusively attended by gang members and disabled vets.
That seems so much more likely than a broken culture with numerous examples of stonewalling the police.

Congrats hero, you found another completely unfeasible excuse to ignore the broken culture and instead correlate your war injury to an imaginary scenario where everyone at a hamburger stand is under the thrall of murderous gangbangers.

The lengths some of you will go to, truly amazing. Story, after story, after story of both police and blacks referencing the code of the streets (aka 'no snitch' code), but it's all imaginary to you guys. Nope. They don't know what they're talking about. Only you folks, you and your hand-me-down liberal wisdom imparted to you by your flower children parents and Blockbuster rentals from the 90s.

Unbelievable.

Well I don’t hit the classification of disabled actually. Because I’m capable of bending over. It’s all about range of motion, pain doesn’t matter. The $100 is cool though.

Thanks for the hero designation. Can’t say I deserve it, just pointing out that working for the good of the community can blow up in your face sometimes with little benefit... literally. But if me being a combat vet who bled for this country makes you feel some kind of way, I get it. I wouldn’t want to interreupt your pontificating with any real world examples. Guess I’m just some kind of glory hog asshole that way. What kind of dick would even bring that up right?

Anyways, back to sacrificing for the community because you don’t get shit on for mentioning what you gave up for them...

Culture is broken, got it. An that’s a cogent argument. If I knew my community gave a fuck and would back my play, I would step up and do the right thing. But asking individuals to make that stand is a bit dishonest. You operate in the world around you.

So what’s your suggestion to fix it? Or we just circle jerking about how cool we are?

Come on it not about bravery, its about growing up in a place like that. I worked in some fucked up neighborhoods, seen some shit. But when kids are involved even gangbanger kids and look at this girls picture she wasn't one, have some respect, even those neighborhoods told the police they gotta find who did that. No snitching is one thing but we are talking about a 15 year old girl at a burger stand.

[Viktorthepirate]

I'm sure the hamburger stand was exclusively attended by gang members and disabled vets.
That seems so much more likely than a broken culture with numerous examples of stonewalling the police.

Congrats hero, you found another completely unfeasible excuse to ignore the broken culture and instead correlate your war injury to an imaginary scenario where everyone at a hamburger stand is under the thrall of murderous gangbangers.

The lengths some of you will go to, truly amazing. Story, after story, after story of both police and blacks referencing the code of the streets (aka 'no snitch' code), but it's all imaginary to you guys. Nope. They don't know what they're talking about. Only you folks, you and your hand-me-down liberal wisdom imparted to you by your flower children parents and Blockbuster rentals from the 90s.

Unbelievable.

Well I don’t hit the classification of disabled actually. Because I’m capable of bending over. It’s all about range of motion, pain doesn’t matter. The $100 is cool though.

Thanks for the hero designation. Can’t say I deserve it, just pointing out that working for the good of the community can blow up in your face sometimes with little benefit... literally. But if me being a combat vet who bled for this country makes you feel some kind of way, I get it. I wouldn’t want to interreupt your pontificating with any real world examples. Guess I’m just some kind of glory hog asshole that way. What kind of dick would even bring that up right?

Anyways, back to sacrificing for the community because you don’t get shit on for mentioning what you gave up for them...

Culture is broken, got it. An that’s a cogent argument. If I knew my community gave a fuck and would back my play, I would step up and do the right thing. But asking individuals to make that stand is a bit dishonest. You operate in the world around you.

So what’s your suggestion to fix it? Or we just circle jerking about how cool we are?

Come on it not about bravery, its about growing up in a place like that. I worked in some fucked up neighborhoods, seen some shit. But when kids are involved even gangbanger kids and look at this girls picture she wasn't one, have some respect, even those neighborhoods told the police they gotta find who did that. No snitching is one thing but we are talking about a 15 year old girl at a burger stand.

I’m not saying she was, I’m saying I’d think about it.

It’s a fucked up story, I get that. And it disgusts me that people could feel anything but condemnation for such an act.

But much like I was disgusted by a bunch of brits watching a soldier get butchered in the streets while taking video with their phones , I don’t paint them all in the same brush.

[DBTrek]

Is it spreading? As in ... outside of poor black communities?

Is there a white, Asian, or Hispanic Compton somewhere that allows random folks to gun down kids while relying on the whole community to just fall into line and stonewall the police? If there is, I'm unaware. And so, I don't think it's spreading - I think it's clinging. Clinging to destitute urban blacks. Clinging to a demographic that political carnival barkers and snake oil salesmen prop up like Tiny Tim on his crutches Christmas morn - always with the intention of using the misery to further their own agenda.

If I thought it was spreading, I'd say kill it with fire. Because when two cultures with such extremely different values collide there is no peace to be reached. You can't have law and order sharing space with "nobody talk to cops, they're worse than child murderers". But I don't think it's spreading, I think it's just hanging around in urban centers, playing on repeat, same as it ever was. So either the participants of that culture need to evolve past it, and if they come asking for specific help we can lend it - or we need to wash our hands of it and start putting the burden back on them.

No more "what can we do" reactions to a broken culture doing broken things.
We can do nothing but wash our hands of it, and anything beyond that is simply a con being played for money or power.
They have to do it.
Or they have to live with it.

The only thing confounding to me is how they could be surrounded on all sides by healthier cultures, and not want to make the change.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Speaking of Dickens,

There are many pleasant fictions of the law in constant operation, but there is not one so pleasant or practically humorous as that which supposes every man to be of equal value in its impartial eye, and the benefits of all laws to be equally attainable by all men, without the smallest reference to the furniture of their pockets.

[DBTrek]

Did Dickens go on to examine why only one culture of people with small “furniture of their pockets” would stonewall police over a murdered child, while the rest would not?

Or are you just adding one more excuse to the pile so that a broken culture can continue unexamined?

Because that seems to be the theme of the thread now. Everyone make excuses. No one think critically.
/shrug

[kybkh]

Kanye broke the code.
Daz Dillinger gives the go ahead for crips to whip Kanye West ass on sight. Is that going too far or na?
https://twitter.com/IamAkademiks/status ... 7826425857

[Speaker to Animals]

They are already threatening his life in California.

That's the left for you.