Texas Teachers all riled up

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Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:46 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:You need basic understanding to lead to comprehension to lead to analysis to lead to synthesis to lead to evaluation and creation. It doesn't work like you seem to be suggesting. I know what the shtick or idea is and it doesn't work. Having "access" to information essentially means fuck all to comprehension or application or "critical thinking".
Who are you responding to, and what statements?
The teacher on the board (I'm one to). He was saying since kids can just "look it up" the idea has been for years to focus more on "critical thinking".
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:49 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:You need basic understanding to lead to comprehension to lead to analysis to lead to synthesis to lead to evaluation and creation. It doesn't work like you seem to be suggesting. I know what the shtick or idea is and it doesn't work. Having "access" to information essentially means fuck all to comprehension or application or "critical thinking".
Who are you responding to, and what statements?
The teacher on the board (I'm one to). He was saying since kids can just "look it up" the idea has been for years to focus more on "critical thinking".
Got it.

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Re: Texas Teachers all riled up

Post by Zero » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:58 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:You need basic understanding to lead to comprehension to lead to analysis to lead to synthesis to lead to evaluation and creation. It doesn't work like you seem to be suggesting. I know what the shtick or idea is and it doesn't work. Having "access" to information essentially means fuck all to comprehension or application or "critical thinking".
Who are you responding to, and what statements?
The teacher on the board (I'm one to). He was saying since kids can just "look it up" the idea has been for years to focus more on "critical thinking".
Cool! Where/what do you teach?

I kind of blazed through that, what I was getting at was that with the example provided in the video, that 18-24 year olds didn’t all know that we have an alliance with Japan isn’t necessarily indicative of anything in particular, other than they may have learned it and then
not needed the knowledge after that.

As far as Blooms, information is so easy to acquire, we don’t have drill and kill memorize every little thing. Kids can look up what they need, as opposed to be expected to recall all of our current strategic alliances from memory, and move on up the taxonomy faster.
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Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:04 pm

I teach Civics, World History I, and World History II in central Virginia.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:07 pm

How many of your students, either of you, know that disease was unseated as the top global killer for the first time in world history by communism in the 20th century?
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Post by Zero » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:08 pm

Are those world histories semester long, or all year?
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Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:12 pm

Zero wrote:Are those world histories semester long, or all year?
I teach in high school. But I have section of 8th grade Civics as well. At my school most classes are semester only, 1 and half hour blocks, everyday. Most districts have year long courses every other day, but there quite a few out the 100+ districts that do have semester 4 by 4 scheduling.
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Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:14 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:How many of your students, either of you, know that disease was unseated as the top global killer for the first time in world history by communism in the 20th century?
In World History II we spend about two weeks on the "Cold War". They write a comparative essay on Hitler/Stalin. No one knows how many people Communist countries killed...only that it was in the 10s of millions. Part of the horror of it if you ask me.
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Post by Zero » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:16 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:How many of your students, either of you, know that disease was unseated as the top global killer for the first time in world history by communism in the 20th century?
Not really my wheelhouse in 8th US History (Colonization through Reconstruction). When I taught 6th grade for a couple of years in Contemporary World we talked about and looked (again, briefly) at Stalist Russia and Mao’s China, including some of the stats. I don’t think I framed it in comparison to deaths by disease though, we just looked at the #s and talked about how the political leadership changed. Again, it’s a survey class for 11 year olds - just setting the table, really. That’s a good hook line to open with though, I like it.
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Re: Texas Teachers all riled up

Post by Zero » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:19 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Zero wrote:Are those world histories semester long, or all year?
I teach in high school. But I have section of 8th grade Civics as well. At my school most classes are semester only, 1 and half hour blocks, everyday. Most districts have year long courses every other day, but there quite a few out the 100+ districts that do have semester 4 by 4 scheduling.
I’ve never had a chance to teach SS in a block, do you like it? That’s one of the areas I’m really interested in (scheduling) as I look at admin. The 8 period, 45-50 minute class schedule is BS. Form before function.
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