Relativity is Relatively Misunderstood

[heydaralon]

You guys are displaying a shocking amount of ignorance. Its kind of pitiful if you want to know the truth. There is no way to test time dillation or the distance of stars because you've never been to space. For all you know, the stars are actually really tiny and quite close, not huge and far away. They might even be small objects floating in our own atmosphere that glow. We have no way of knowing, and planetary scientists are talking out of their ass if they tell you otherwise. It is impossible to verify this stuff.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You guys are displaying a shocking amount of ignorance. Its kind of pitiful if you want to know the truth. There is no way to test time dillation or the distance of stars because you've never been to space. For all you know, the stars are actually really tiny and quite close, not huge and far away. They might even be small objects floating in our own atmosphere that glow. We have no way of knowing, and planetary scientists are talking out of their ass if they tell you otherwise. It is impossible to verify this stuff.

I know you’re trolling, but that still kind of annoys me. A lot of people really do think that.

[heydaralon]

You guys are displaying a shocking amount of ignorance. Its kind of pitiful if you want to know the truth. There is no way to test time dillation or the distance of stars because you've never been to space. For all you know, the stars are actually really tiny and quite close, not huge and far away. They might even be small objects floating in our own atmosphere that glow. We have no way of knowing, and planetary scientists are talking out of their ass if they tell you otherwise. It is impossible to verify this stuff.

I know you’re trolling, but that still kind of annoys me. A lot of people really do think that.

Are you willing to bet your future on a telescope? Those things are notoriously inaccurate. One time I looked through a telescope with a special filter to see a solar eclipse and just saw black. It turns out, I didn't take the lens cap off, but even still those telescopes are usually made in China by slave labor.

[Speaker to Animals]

Acceleration has nothing to do with time dilation. It’s about relative speed.

It has everything to do with time dilation. You are referring to something else.

Acceleration and gravity are essentially the same thing in general relativity.

[heydaralon]

Time is precious. As we are speaking, it is flying by for all of us. Our lives are ending second by second. Time goes by way to fast to worry about dillation. Arthur C. Clarke already disproved all this stuff anyway, so this entire conversation is moot.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Acceleration has nothing to do with time dilation. It’s about relative speed.

It has everything to do with time dilation. You are referring to something else.

Acceleration and gravity are essentially the same thing in general relativity.

I guess in one sense that’s true, but it’s not related to the acceleration of the object itself. You’re talking about the formula for gravity, which does involve Mass/Time/Time. But that’s not the same thing.

[Speaker to Animals]

Acceleration has nothing to do with time dilation. It’s about relative speed.

It has everything to do with time dilation. You are referring to something else.

Acceleration and gravity are essentially the same thing in general relativity.

I guess in one sense that’s true, but it’s not related to the acceleration of the object itself. You’re talking about the formula for gravity, which does involve Mass/Time/Time. But that’s not the same thing.

Even in Newtonian physics the equation for gravity can be derived from F = ma. With a being acceleration.

Although, technically, in general relativity, gravity I don't think is a proper "force" but more of an effect (like centrifugal force).

[SuburbanFarmer]

It has everything to do with time dilation. You are referring to something else.

Acceleration and gravity are essentially the same thing in general relativity.

I guess in one sense that’s true, but it’s not related to the acceleration of the object itself. You’re talking about the formula for gravity, which does involve Mass/Time/Time. But that’s not the same thing.

Even in Newtonian physics the equation for gravity can be derived from F = ma. With a being acceleration.

Although, technically, in general relativity, gravity I don't think is a proper "force" but more of an effect (like centrifugal force).

Correct. It’s the effect of space-time distortion, created by mass. Newton defined it, using Acceleration, but his formula was overwritten by relativity. It didn’t describe the precession of Mercury, and some other obscure observations.

[heydaralon]

Acceleration has nothing to do with time dilation. It’s about relative speed.

It has everything to do with time dilation. You are referring to something else.

Acceleration and gravity are essentially the same thing in general relativity.

I guess in one sense that’s true, but it’s not related to the acceleration of the object itself. You’re talking about the formula for gravity, which does involve Mass/Time/Time. But that’s not the same thing.

Gravity would only apply if you were talking about dropping a bowling ball off the tower of Pisa. Spaceships are a bit different. Gravity moves up and down (picture dropping your phone, notice how it falls towards your feet not your head), whereas spaceships seem to move sideways. Since space doesn't have a floor or ceiling, that is the only way they could move. Thus, gravity is not a useful metric for determining time. In any case, gravity and time are not as closely related as people like to pretend. For instance, gravity does not apply in bodies of water. Think about it: If you jumped into an 8 foot hole filled with air, you would break your legs. If you jumped into an 8 foot deep lake or swimming pool, you actually float. The water counteracts the gravitational force. Another reason that gravity and time are not associated at all is evidenced by the fact that water, the very thing that nullifies gravity, does not stop water proof watches from working. Usually, they are accurate, down to the millisecond, even when you are submerged in the pool. I think its time to rethink this whole relativity thing. I realize this is a lot to process for you, but I will give you a few minutes GCF. Please stop posting silly and incorrect assumptions about science. In the future, I will hold you to a higher standard, because after reading this post, you should have a bit more insight into how the universe works.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Lmao you are insane