The Opioid Crisis

[heydaralon]

From my POV, this shit is getting ridiculous.

Our son, with Aspberger's, can only get a 30 day supply of his medication. The renewal script has to be hand-delivered to the pharmacy every 30 days, not 29 days. Every 90 days, we have to drive back to the doctor to get three more hand-written scripts.

On our most recent road trip. we had to show the pharmacist our confirmed reservation for a hotel in Chicago, in order to fill his script ONE DAY early.

He has Aspberger's, so of course, once in awhile, he loses a pill. It's too bad, so sad land for him.

The government has way too much control over our lives, and it sickens me. People want to OD on drugs? Let them. Quit fucking up life for the rest of us. We have got to stop legislating to the lowest common denominator.

As a side note, I was taking a semi-synthetic opiate for five years that helped with my own condition. (An off label usage.) Never took too much, never had to beg the doctor for more, but because of this bullshit, I can no longer get it. The alternatives work, but not nearly as well, so I am permanently stuck without helpful medications because the government is here to help. Fuck them.

Agreed. Fuck off government. The drug war is quite repulsive on every level.

I read that heroin is five times more likely to kill you than pain pills. Where do you guys think these people are gonna go after their doctor gets locked up?

Why are conservatives quick to point out that a black market will exist if we repeal the second amendment (a point that is 100% valid and I am in complete agreement with), but pretend that this doesn't apply to drugs? Liberals are just as stupid when it comes to this stuff.

I don't think a cop should get a second of overtime for anything narcotics related.

You can violate every HIPPA law, allow every patient to continue to suffer, lock up every doctor, and shred the fourth amendment, and people will still get high.

[clubgop]

They regularly, and as a matter of course, lobby doctors and hospitals to over-prescribe. There's an entire sub-industry of direct marketing, and offering "perks" to those that agree to play ball. I know you've heard of this.

They have heavily cracked down on this and none of this is necessary for opioids. They are all generic so there is no interest by any specific company to push them. The patients want them no need to lobby the doctors to prescribe. Stick with what you know, which ain't much if anything, but it aint this.

It's not necessary anymore, but it certainly was, to get to this point.

nah, you're right. Doctors just suddenly sprouted bleeding hearts, and started tossing pills everywhere, because that's medicine. Thankfully, the generic makers just do this out of the good of their hearts, and not for any sort of profit motive.

You are a complete and total idiot. Doctor's have no control over what generic gets distributed you fucking dumbass. If a doctor writes a script for atorvastatin just about every manufacturer distributes that. Every mainstream pharmacy in different geographic locations will use a different manufacturer for that. You are an idiot and don't know what you are talking about as usual. Steve Martin is speaking directly to you and you think it is about everyone else around you.

[clubgop]

From my POV, this shit is getting ridiculous.

Our son, with Aspberger's, can only get a 30 day supply of his medication. The renewal script has to be hand-delivered to the pharmacy every 30 days, not 29 days. Every 90 days, we have to drive back to the doctor to get three more hand-written scripts.

On our most recent road trip. we had to show the pharmacist our confirmed reservation for a hotel in Chicago, in order to fill his script ONE DAY early.

He has Aspberger's, so of course, once in awhile, he loses a pill. It's too bad, so sad land for him.

The government has way too much control over our lives, and it sickens me. People want to OD on drugs? Let them. Quit fucking up life for the rest of us. We have got to stop legislating to the lowest common denominator.

As a side note, I was taking a semi-synthetic opiate for five years that helped with my own condition. (An off label usage.) Never took too much, never had to beg the doctor for more, but because of this bullshit, I can no longer get it. The alternatives work, but not nearly as well, so I am permanently stuck without helpful medications because the government is here to help. Fuck them.

Agreed. Fuck off government. The drug war is quite repulsive on every level.

I read that heroin is five times more likely to kill you than pain pills. Where do you guys think these people are gonna go after their doctor gets locked up?

Why are conservatives quick to point out that a black market will exist if we repeal the second amendment (a point that is 100% valid and I am in complete agreement with), but pretend that this doesn't apply to drugs? Liberals are just as stupid when it comes to this stuff.

I don't think a cop should get a second of overtime for anything narcotics related.

You can violate every HIPPA law, allow every patient to continue to suffer, lock up every doctor, and shred the fourth amendment, and people will still get high.

Sorry, it is not a doctor's responsibility to support an addiction because the alternative might be worse. I understand the black market argument but that doesn't mean a gun dealer should avoid legal responsibility because they sell to gangbangers because the alternative might be worse.

[heydaralon]

From my POV, this shit is getting ridiculous.

Our son, with Aspberger's, can only get a 30 day supply of his medication. The renewal script has to be hand-delivered to the pharmacy every 30 days, not 29 days. Every 90 days, we have to drive back to the doctor to get three more hand-written scripts.

On our most recent road trip. we had to show the pharmacist our confirmed reservation for a hotel in Chicago, in order to fill his script ONE DAY early.

He has Aspberger's, so of course, once in awhile, he loses a pill. It's too bad, so sad land for him.

The government has way too much control over our lives, and it sickens me. People want to OD on drugs? Let them. Quit fucking up life for the rest of us. We have got to stop legislating to the lowest common denominator.

As a side note, I was taking a semi-synthetic opiate for five years that helped with my own condition. (An off label usage.) Never took too much, never had to beg the doctor for more, but because of this bullshit, I can no longer get it. The alternatives work, but not nearly as well, so I am permanently stuck without helpful medications because the government is here to help. Fuck them.

Agreed. Fuck off government. The drug war is quite repulsive on every level.

I read that heroin is five times more likely to kill you than pain pills. Where do you guys think these people are gonna go after their doctor gets locked up?

Why are conservatives quick to point out that a black market will exist if we repeal the second amendment (a point that is 100% valid and I am in complete agreement with), but pretend that this doesn't apply to drugs? Liberals are just as stupid when it comes to this stuff.

I don't think a cop should get a second of overtime for anything narcotics related.

You can violate every HIPPA law, allow every patient to continue to suffer, lock up every doctor, and shred the fourth amendment, and people will still get high.

Sorry, it is not a doctor's responsibility to support an addiction because the alternative might be worse. I understand the black market argument but that doesn't mean a gun dealer should avoid legal responsibility because they sell to gangbangers because the alternative might be worse.

I'm not saying its the doctors responsibility at all. But how exactly should a doctor get a manslaughter charge for prescribing drugs that people wanted and possibly gave him false information to obtain? Club, do you think a bartender should get a manslaughter charge for serving alcohol to a dude who gets in an accident or gets cirrhosis?
That is ridiculous to me.

[de officiis]

Potentially, at least as to civil liability ... see Dram Shop Acts

[Viktorthepirate]

From my POV, this shit is getting ridiculous.

Our son, with Aspberger's, can only get a 30 day supply of his medication. The renewal script has to be hand-delivered to the pharmacy every 30 days, not 29 days. Every 90 days, we have to drive back to the doctor to get three more hand-written scripts.

On our most recent road trip. we had to show the pharmacist our confirmed reservation for a hotel in Chicago, in order to fill his script ONE DAY early.

He has Aspberger's, so of course, once in awhile, he loses a pill. It's too bad, so sad land for him.

The government has way too much control over our lives, and it sickens me. People want to OD on drugs? Let them. Quit fucking up life for the rest of us. We have got to stop legislating to the lowest common denominator.

As a side note, I was taking a semi-synthetic opiate for five years that helped with my own condition. (An off label usage.) Never took too much, never had to beg the doctor for more, but because of this bullshit, I can no longer get it. The alternatives work, but not nearly as well, so I am permanently stuck without helpful medications because the government is here to help. Fuck them.

Agreed. Fuck off government. The drug war is quite repulsive on every level.

I read that heroin is five times more likely to kill you than pain pills. Where do you guys think these people are gonna go after their doctor gets locked up?

Why are conservatives quick to point out that a black market will exist if we repeal the second amendment (a point that is 100% valid and I am in complete agreement with), but pretend that this doesn't apply to drugs? Liberals are just as stupid when it comes to this stuff.

I don't think a cop should get a second of overtime for anything narcotics related.

You can violate every HIPPA law, allow every patient to continue to suffer, lock up every doctor, and shred the fourth amendment, and people will still get high.

This annoying as hell. I don't need any prescriptions but all that nonsense would drive me crazy if I did.

[Hastur]

What's the thing with you guys and drugs? Americans, constituting only 4.6% of the world’s population, have been consuming 80% of the global opioid supply, and 99% of the global hydrocodone supply, as well as two thirds of the world’s illegal drugs. That's crazy .
It has to be connected to your f-ed up health care system somehow.

[Speaker to Animals]

What's the thing with you guys and drugs? Americans, constituting only 4.6% of the world’s population, have been consuming 80% of the global opioid supply, and 99% of the global hydrocodone supply, as well as two thirds of the world’s illegal drugs. That's crazy .
It has to be connected to your f-ed up health care system somehow.

More economic than that. A lot of social decay and disintegration as well.

[heydaralon]

I'll bet if they gave that Reno doctor 20 years instead of 10 none of those patients would have used drugs anymore... I'm sure they are cleaning up their act now

[The Conservative]

I just don't know how these people are getting these drugs. I had a root canal two years ago. The local anesthetic didn't work. Dentist was hitting raw nerve for a solid hour. I cried the whole time. My shirt was soaking wet afterwards. I couldn't even get a single Tylenol with codeine.

Who is giving these people pain pills?

Visit a methadone clinic, your answer is there.