This happened because somebody set vineyards on fire.
Something similar happened here in WNC and over the border in Tennessee the summer before last. These are arsonists. There are actually a lot of arsonists each year setting shit on fire. Torturing them to death is too good.
On a dispatch to california. I’ve not heard the official cause of the fire, I imagine it’s arson, maybe an out of work firefighter. I don’t know.
I’m not super opinionated about what causes these big wildfires, but there’s a lot of corruption and a lot of money interests tied up with current policy. It can be argued that fire suppression creates bigger fires later. It is also true that logging companies turn forests into monocrops, planting them unnaturally dense, and this creates bigger fires later. Other times we have witnessed burn operations that have already taken place being used as pretense to log ordinarily off-limits riparian zones.
We focus on protecting human structures but does anyone ever think maybe they shouldn’t have structures in fire country? I’m speaking generally here, not in cases where arsonists are lighting up everything. That’s my 2 cents. But I enjoy firefighting despite all of this.
JohnDonne wrote:On a dispatch to california. I’ve not heard the official cause of the fire, I imagine it’s arson, maybe an out of work firefighter. I don’t know.
I’m not super opinionated about what causes these big wildfires, but there’s a lot of corruption and a lot of money interests tied up with current policy. It can be argued that fire suppression creates bigger fires later. It is also true that logging companies turn forests into monocrops, planting them unnaturally dense, and this creates bigger fires later. Other times we have witnessed burn operations that have already taken place being used as pretense to log ordinarily off-limits riparian zones.
We focus on protecting human structures but does anyone ever think maybe they shouldn’t have structures in fire country? I’m speaking generally here, not in cases where arsonists are lighting up everything. That’s my 2 cents. But I enjoy firefighting despite all of this.
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Well, No one really hesitates to rebuild N'Oleans or South Beach every time it's flooded and blown away, so restricting folks living in the forest doesn't bother us, I guess.
So, how many fires started around 10PM Sunday night, I heard multiple fires.
On federal land, they generally just let the fires burn. So it's not the "overgrowth" that is the problem in fires that start there, and most other places are too developed for "overgrowth" to be a factor.
Arson is actually pretty common. During extreme drouts it can become quite deadly and make the news. Usually it barely registers.
JohnDonne wrote:On a dispatch to california. I’ve not heard the official cause of the fire, I imagine it’s arson, maybe an out of work firefighter. I don’t know.
I’m not super opinionated about what causes these big wildfires, but there’s a lot of corruption and a lot of money interests tied up with current policy. It can be argued that fire suppression creates bigger fires later. It is also true that logging companies turn forests into monocrops, planting them unnaturally dense, and this creates bigger fires later. Other times we have witnessed burn operations that have already taken place being used as pretense to log ordinarily off-limits riparian zones.
We focus on protecting human structures but does anyone ever think maybe they shouldn’t have structures in fire country? I’m speaking generally here, not in cases where arsonists are lighting up everything. That’s my 2 cents. But I enjoy firefighting despite all of this.
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Well, No one really hesitates to rebuild N'Oleans or South Beach every time it's flooded and blown away, so restricting folks living in the forest doesn't bother us, I guess.
So, how many fires started around 10PM Sunday night, I heard multiple fires.
None of the news sources I looked at said how many were started, officials seem to be hinting that it wasn’t lightning...
Speaker to Animals wrote:On federal land, they generally just let the fires burn. So it's not the "overgrowth" that is the problem in fires that start there, and most other places are too developed for "overgrowth" to be a factor.
Arson is actually pretty common. During extreme drouts it can become quite deadly and make the news. Usually it barely registers.
The idea of allowing forests to burn is actually relatively new policy, not sure it makes sense to discount “overgrowth” as a factor when we’ve been suppressing fires for a century.
When you say other places are too developed for “Overgrowth” do you mean private lands?
Speaker to Animals wrote:On federal land, they generally just let the fires burn. So it's not the "overgrowth" that is the problem in fires that start there, and most other places are too developed for "overgrowth" to be a factor.
Arson is actually pretty common. During extreme drouts it can become quite deadly and make the news. Usually it barely registers.
The idea of allowing forests to burn is actually relatively new policy, not sure it makes sense to discount “overgrowth” as a factor when we’ve been suppressing fires for a century.
When you say other places are too developed for “Overgrowth” do you mean private lands?
I am pretty sure it's always been like that in the national forests. We didn't even have the ability to put out major fires until recently anyway. Putting out a huge wildfire up in the mountains in the middle of a forest is not easy.
Nukedog wrote:Look at your real estate prices. The people living in burn zones probably know why they live there.
Once again. White working class under attack.
I’ve seen all classes in burn zones, from hillbilly shack to mansion. I’ve even heard of celebrities coming out to thank firefighters for protecting their homes. Jeff bridges was very nice or so I was told. Also, in NorCal it’s weed farmers galore up in the mountains, people fleeing their about to be burned homes right into the arms of the police, just waiting for them.
