Why are the Crimes of Stalinism Overlooked?

[Smitty-48]

Are you going all "Stalinism isn't real socialism" on us Smitty?

I always knew you secretly felt the Bern. He could still win in 2016 ya' know.

Who were the superstars of the Bolshevik party? Who were the great leaders of Soviet Bolshevism?

Trostsky? Bukharin? Zinoviev? Kamenev?

Stalin killed them all.

Dangerous Menshevik counter-revolutionaries. Stalin killed them for the people.

No, the Bolsheviks wiped out the Mensheviks, that was Lenin who did that, by the time Stalin took over, there were no Mensheviks left, the only threat left to Stalin, were Bolsheviks, so that is exactly who he wiped out first.

[heydaralon]

Lenin answered his own question. He knew "what is to be done." There is a weird thing leftist try to do with Lenin and Trotsky where they act as though their hands were clean of Stalin's crimes, when in reality they laid the groundwork for his actions. They were quite pitiless themselves.

[Smitty-48]

Lenin answered his own question. He knew "what is to be done." There is a weird thing leftist try to do with Lenin and Trotsky where they act as though their hands were clean of Stalin's crimes, when in reality they laid the groundwork for his actions. They were quite pitiless themselves.

They actually had Stalin do their dirty work for them. Now, Stalin idolized Lenin, Lenin was his hero, but the rest of them, no, Stalin had no time for them, and so as soon as Lenin was gone, Stalin got to work on payback time.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Who were the superstars of the Bolshevik party? Who were the great leaders of Soviet Bolshevism?

Trostsky? Bukharin? Zinoviev? Kamenev?

Stalin killed them all.

Dangerous Menshevik counter-revolutionaries. Stalin killed them for the people.

No, the Bolsheviks wiped out the Mensheviks, that was Lenin who did that, by the time Stalin took over, there were no Mensheviks left, the only threat left to Stalin, were Bolsheviks, so that is exactly who he wiped out first.

Secret Mensheviks.

That is the great thing about Stalinism. You have never really eliminated an enemy. They are always lurking in the shadows. Always giving you a very good reason to keep fighting for the people.

[heydaralon]

Lenin answered his own question. He knew "what is to be done." There is a weird thing leftist try to do with Lenin and Trotsky where they act as though their hands were clean of Stalin's crimes, when in reality they laid the groundwork for his actions. They were quite pitiless themselves.

They actually had Stalin do their dirty work for them. Now, Stalin idolized Lenin, Lenin was his hero, but the rest of them, no, Stalin had no time for them, and so as soon as Lenin was gone, Stalin got to work on payback time.

Its like how Deng Xiaopeng is viewed as a moderate version of Mao. In some ways he did great things for China, such as allowing market forces in etc, but he also used villagers as human shields (literally) during the Chinese civil war. His kill count wasn't nearly as high, but he was quite ruthless. I believe Trotsky took family members of his enemies as hostages.

[Smitty-48]

Dangerous Menshevik counter-revolutionaries. Stalin killed them for the people.

No, the Bolsheviks wiped out the Mensheviks, that was Lenin who did that, by the time Stalin took over, there were no Mensheviks left, the only threat left to Stalin, were Bolsheviks, so that is exactly who he wiped out first.

Secret Mensheviks.

That is the great thing about Stalinism. You have never really eliminated an enemy. They are always lurking in the shadows. Always giving you a very good reason to keep fighting for the people.

No guy, the first people Stalin went after, were the hardcore of the hardcore Bolsheviks, the brightest shining lights, of the Bolshevik party, he only let Trotsky survive as long as he did, under the John Matrix doctine;

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Well, if we had known that when we put NATO together, maybe we would have let the USSR participate.

[heydaralon]

What is weird about comparisons between Nazism and Stalinism, is that people make the claim that Hitler did not purge the way Stalin did. The thing is, Hitler didn't do it as much, but he had at least 2 thorough purges of his movement. The first one was the Night of the Long Knives where Strasser, Roehm and some other pillowbiters and marxist sympathizers were shot. Then the Stauffenberg plot where Rommel and others were killed. It seems like all these movements end up being cannibalistic. During the French Revolution, Danton got the blade as did other plotters, and I think those crazy Mennonites in Prophets of Podcast were going after each other too.

[Smitty-48]

Well, if we had known that when we put NATO together, maybe we would have let the USSR participate.

Tellin' ya, dude, if you hate bolshies, Stalin is a funny guy, he didn't just kill them, he made it fun, he had a good time doin' it, he played with his food before he ate it.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Well, if we had known that when we put NATO together, maybe we would have let the USSR participate.

Tellin' ya, dude, if you hate bolshies, Stalin is a funny guy, he didn't just kill them, he made it fun, he had a good time doin' it, he played with his food before he ate it.

I don't hate the bolshies, I just overlook the crimes of Stalinism against them.

Must be my Marxist indoctrination at the hands of public schools and WaPo.