United Airlines beats the shit out of passenger

[SuburbanFarmer]

Point is, they can't void his ticket after the plane is boarded

Not actually a rule. Nor a law. Nor a right.

Watch the news tomorrow. We have a law about keeping them on the tarmac for too long.

[TheOneX]

Smitty you might want to go take a gander at what the US Department of Transportation has to say about how aviation companies are supposed to handle overbooking. They do have regulations about it.

[Smitty-48]

Point is, they can't void his ticket after the plane is boarded

Not actually a rule. Nor a law. Nor a right.

Watch the news tomorrow. We have a law about keeping them on the tarmac for too long.

Doesn't shield you from being forcibly removed for being non compliant to the crew, if you're out on the tarmac when you go unruly passenger, they'll just turn around and go back to the gate, and then throw your ass off the plane.

[Smitty-48]

Smitty you might want to go take a gander at what the US Department of Transportation has to say about how aviation companies are supposed to handle overbooking. They do have regulations about it.

The regulation says that you are entitled to a minimum $800 for your troubles if they have to bump you for overbooking, which they offered him and he refused, the regulations do not entitle you to stage a "sit-in" and be non compliant to the crew, at that point, they're calling security and you're getting forcibly removed as necessary.

The regulation compensates you after the fact, it doesn't empower you to get into a contest of wills with airport security, so get real.

[jbird4049]

Smitty you might want to go take a gander at what the US Department of Transportation has to say about how aviation companies are supposed to handle overbooking. They do have regulations about it.

The regulation says that you are entitled to a minimum $800 for your troubles if they have to bump you for overbooking, which they offered him and he refused, the regulations do not entitle you to stage a "sit-in" and be non compliant to the crew, at that point, they're calling security and you're getting forcibly removed as necessary.

The regulation compensates you after the fact, it doesn't empower you to get into a contest of wills with airport security, so get real.

Between the 3+ hours it sometimes takes to get to the airport, though "security" and onto the ever shrinking seats, I think one should not have to be forced to get off. It's extremely exhausting, frustrating, sometimes embarrassing, and often expensive to fly. The airline messed up, didn't offer enough in incentives, and acted badly.

And no, just because it is legal doesn't make it right. It just means they can get away with it.

[Smitty-48]

Between the 3+ hours it sometimes takes to get to the airport, though "security" and onto the ever shrinking seats, I think one should not have to be forced to get off. It's extremely exhausting, frustrating, sometimes embarrassing, and often expensive to fly. The airline messed up, didn't offer enough in incentives, and acted badly.

And no, just because it is legal doesn't make it right. It just means they can get away with it.

There's no "getting away with" anything, all United did was follow the regulations, when the unruly passenger wouldn't get with the program, United was forced to call the police. Once the police arrived, the unruly passenger decided he was going to take them on too, refusing to comply, at which point, the police used a reasonable level of force to remove him from the venue, in the context of the unruly passenger just refusing to budge and so forcing the issue.

The passenger is an infantile narcissist in an America which has become a nation of infantile narcissists, but at the end of the day, the police have a job to do, and if you're going to be an infantile narccisist in the face of that, they'll just have to haul your ass out of the seat and off the plane while you throw a screeching tantrum fit like the pathetic man-baby that you are, who knew?

To wit, despite the outward appearance of being a grown assed man, the passenger was exhibiting the exact behavior of a two year old, and like a two year old, had to be dragged off kicking and screaming for a "time out" by the police as proxy for mommy and daddy.

[Zlaxer]

It's a private venue, if a business tells you to vacate the premises, and you refuse, their private security is going to have latitude to forcibly remove you, it might be bad PR, but if he's staging a "protest" and they have to haul his ass out, that's on him.

Basically, at the point that he outright refusing to leave, he's tresspassing, at which point, subject to as much reasonable force as is required to remove him.

They're common carriers Smitty - rules are different for them than normal business....and Congress is always looking to play the hero.....

[Martin Hash]

It's a private venue, if a business tells you to vacate the premises, and you refuse, their private security is going to have latitude to forcibly remove you, it might be bad PR, but if he's staging a "protest" and they have to haul his ass out, that's on him.

Basically, at the point that he outright refusing to leave, he's tresspassing, at which point, subject to as much reasonable force as is required to remove him.

They're common carriers Smitty - rules are different for them than normal business....and Congress is always looking to play the hero.....

A business is allowed to exist because it serves society, not the other way around. People band together to protect themselves, not the businesses of the richest among them. Granted, The 1% has used its asymmetric power to leverage the legal system into saying that businesses are people and have the Rights of people, but that can't last... When The Collapse comes, The 1% and their "businesses" will be reigned in.

[Fife]

Single-payer air travel is our only hope.

[Okeefenokee]

It's a private venue, if a business tells you to vacate the premises, and you refuse, their private security is going to have latitude to forcibly remove you, it might be bad PR, but if he's staging a "protest" and they have to haul his ass out, that's on him.

Basically, at the point that he outright refusing to leave, he's tresspassing, at which point, subject to as much reasonable force as is required to remove him.

They're common carriers Smitty - rules are different for them than normal business....and Congress is always looking to play the hero.....

A business is allowed to exist because it serves society, not the other way around. People band together to protect themselves, not the businesses of the richest among them. Granted, The 1% has used its asymmetric power to leverage the legal system into saying that businesses are people and have the Rights of people, but that can't last... When The Collapse comes, The 1% and their "businesses" will be reigned in.

yawn. gimme bennies or i getz muh pitchfork.