Humans must merge with machines or become irrelevant in AI age

[Speaker to Animals]

Transhumanism is going to be the greatest threat to our species we ever faced, with nothing even remotely near it in terms of impact and negative consequences.

Consider how sophistry has been used by the degeneracy we now call the "left" for thousands of years. If reality doesn't comport to what they want, they try to redefine words to make people believe things that are untrue, or to manipulate people into agreeing to something because those people are operating under different definitions of words. Scholars have long argued that the corruption of language has been the greatest threat to western civilization.

But with transhumanism, they don't have to corrupt the language. They can corrupt nature. For instance, now if you refuse to believe that Bruce Jenner can somehow magically become a woman, they will try to shame you into maintaining their sophistic worldview where they all just pretend he is a woman regardless of objective truth. But with transhumanism, they can probably actually convert a person to another sex. Whatever batshit self-image they want to adhere to they will be able to make into a reality. The gender-bending, animal-kin bullshit we see today is entirely pedestrian compared to what we will see when those floodgates open.

I got into an hours long argument on the Dan Carlin Facebook page over that tranny MMA fighter. These people refuse to accept that there is more to being a woman or a man than a person just *thinking* they are a woman or man

Imagine what will happen when they can actually corrupt their human nature. If they want to become gas giant feeding space lampreys, then they will do that.

[Ex-California]

"I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful

[Okeefenokee]

"I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful

[Ex-California]

"I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful

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[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

A computer will always be better at memory storage and recall, but could an incredibly creative person produce even better output with enhanced memory and recall? A painter who can close their eyes and see that perfect sunset, smell the air, and hear the breeze? Not just their imperfect and malleable memory of that moment, but the exact sensory data for it.

I think it is very likely that the imperfect and malleable memory, and imperfect senses are some of the things that make great art.



Do we think making everybody into photo-realistic copyists by jacking their brains into perfectly photo-realistic hard drives will improve art? What would be the point? I have seen a sunset and can remember it myself... the point is to introduce the artists perspective, and if everyone's perspective is perfected through technology, and then represented with perfect accuracy... I don't know.

[adwinistrator]

A computer will always be better at memory storage and recall, but could an incredibly creative person produce even better output with enhanced memory and recall? A painter who can close their eyes and see that perfect sunset, smell the air, and hear the breeze? Not just their imperfect and malleable memory of that moment, but the exact sensory data for it.

I think it is very likely that the imperfect and malleable memory, and imperfect senses are some of the things that make great art.



Do we think making everybody into photo-realistic copyists by jacking their brains into perfectly photo-realistic hard drives will improve art? What would be the point? I have seen a sunset and can remember it myself... the point is to introduce the artists perspective, and if everyone's perspective is perfected through technology, and then represented with perfect accuracy... I don't know.

I have to agree! I also didn't really make my point very well. Art is necessarily subjective after all.

In most creative endeavor, having less data, or less accurate data, will reduce the quality of the product.

Some creative processes are more reliant on the talents and purpose of the creator, whereas something like conceptualizing new systems of social engineering to solve unique community problems, would be reliant on the ability to utilize the knowledge and data.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I have to agree! I also didn't really make my point very well. Art is necessarily subjective after all.

In most creative endeavor, having less data, or less accurate data, will reduce the quality of the product.

Some creative processes are more reliant on the talents and purpose of the creator, whereas something like conceptualizing new systems of social engineering to solve unique community problems, would be reliant on the ability to utilize the knowledge and data.

Ah, I see.

That still creeps me out, but I use a contract-free flip phone like a drug dealer from 2007 so I am probably not exactly the authority on the upside of new technologies.

Accurate data is surely important, but if we are talking about a transhumanist machine merge of some sort, I worry about everybody working on a project plugging into some sort of analytic hive-mind. It would certainly increase efficiency, and probably help generate great solutions to problems, but the creative space shrinks considerably.

The only analogy I can think of is actually especially fitting. Evolution proceeds through copying errors, not absolute fidelity. I tend to believe that creative ideas often start the same way... basically screwing up and being surprised by the results.

[Hastur]

I think Marshall McLuhan had it right. We have already mostly left the biological world and entered into the Machine World.

Man becomes, as it were, the sex organs of the machine world, as the bee of the plant world, enabling it to fecundate and to evolve ever new forms. The machine world reciprocates man's love by expediting his wishes and desires, namely, in providing him with wealth.

There is an interdependability. The machines will, when they become conscious of themselves and the world around them, recognise the utility of mankind. We will, as a species, be kept and pampered to ensure continued evolution of the machines. One day we might cease to be useful. The best thing for us might be to try and develop artificial nostalgia.

[Ex-California]

I think Marshall McLuhan had it right. We have already mostly left the biological world and entered into the Machine World.

Man becomes, as it were, the sex organs of the machine world, as the bee of the plant world, enabling it to fecundate and to evolve ever new forms. The machine world reciprocates man's love by expediting his wishes and desires, namely, in providing him with wealth.

There is an interdependability. The machines will, when they become conscious of themselves and the world around them, recognise the utility of mankind. We will, as a species, be kept and pampered to ensure continued evolution of the machines. One day we might cease to be useful. The best thing for us might be to try and develop artificial nostalgia.

That's TED-cultist bullshit

[SilverEagle]

Musk sounding the alarm once again.

Musk warned that robots would take people’s jobs leaving many with no reason to live and now way or earning an income

He also warned driverless cars would call for a 'universal income' across the planet as millions would face being jobless

"Digital super intelligence will be like an alien."

He then joked: "It seems probable. But this is one of the great questions in physics and philosophy – where are the aliens?

"Maybe they are among us I don’t know. Some people think I am an alien. Not true. "Of course I would say that though wouldn’t I?"

He went on: "If there are super intelligent aliens out there they are probably already observing us.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2883522/t ... artphones/