Is Bodybuilding a Sport?

[Speaker to Animals]

This type of sport impresses me far more than bodybuilding right now.



Here is Kali Muscle fucking around and doing some calisthenic feats:



That to me is far more impressive than a beauty contest.

If you are going to move the goalposts to from arguing that bodybuilding isn't a sport to arguing that bodybuilding isn't as impressive a sport as Calisthenics, that a completely different discussion. Good to see you've abandoned that argument, it was a poor one.

I didn't move any goalposts. I made a separate point. There can be no common ground on whether a beauty contest constitutes a sport. I simply suggested it does *not* constitute a sport, as impressive as their diet and hypertrophy feats may be.

[MilSpecs]

Figure skating is certainly not a sport. Gymnastics...kinda...but, no, not a sport.

So, there is no art in sport? It's just a numbers game? If we're just out to see the fastest, we could race cheetahs or have enhanced humans compete. There must be art in sport for it to be truly meaningful, and I believe it's what we look for when we watch any sport. Gymnastics and bodybuilding push the limits of the human body in an effort to win over the competition, and combine art with athleticism.

The art is in figuring out how to win the numbers game. Score more points than the other team.

That is how bodybuilding was traditionally judged: using a point system.

[StCapps]

Are the Grammys a sport?

There is no physical exertion between competitors, otherwise they would be. Submitting one's already produced work to a panel of judges to be judged at later date doesn't exactly cross that threshold. If they were judging winners based on live performances instead of pre-submitted recordings, that would qualify as a sporting event. A talent show is sporting, an awards show isn't.

[Mercury]

So, there is no art in sport? It's just a numbers game? If we're just out to see the fastest, we could race cheetahs or have enhanced humans compete. There must be art in sport for it to be truly meaningful, and I believe it's what we look for when we watch any sport. Gymnastics and bodybuilding push the limits of the human body in an effort to win over the competition, and combine art with athleticism.

The art is in figuring out how to win the numbers game. Score more points than the other team.

That is how bodybuilding was traditionally judged: using a point system.

A point system wherein points are subjectively applied. The criteria for point accrual may be objectively articulated, but the points are still handed out, subjectively, by individuals.

If the same sort of criteria were developed for bar-room karaoke, would it be a sport?

[StCapps]

A point system wherein points are subjectively applied. The criteria for point accrual may be objectively articulated, but the points are still handed out, subjectively, by individuals.

If the same sort of criteria were developed for bar-room karaoke, would it be a sport?

Yes. It would be a sport, not very popular from a non-drunk spectator perspective, and with minimal physical extertion involved, but it would be a sport nonetheless.

[MilSpecs]

The art is in figuring out how to win the numbers game. Score more points than the other team.

That is how bodybuilding was traditionally judged: using a point system.

A point system wherein points are subjectively applied. The criteria for point accrual may be objectively articulated, but the points are still handed out, subjectively, by individuals.

If the same sort of criteria were developed for bar-room karaoke, would it be a sport?

No - no athleticism involved.

BTW, almost all sports have refs, aka individuals who hand out points, subjectively.

[Mercury]

That is how bodybuilding was traditionally judged: using a point system.

A point system wherein points are subjectively applied. The criteria for point accrual may be objectively articulated, but the points are still handed out, subjectively, by individuals.

If the same sort of criteria were developed for bar-room karaoke, would it be a sport?

No - no athleticism involved.

BTW, almost all sports have refs, aka individuals who hand out points, subjectively.

What qualifies as athleticism, then?

[Mercury]

A point system wherein points are subjectively applied. The criteria for point accrual may be objectively articulated, but the points are still handed out, subjectively, by individuals.

If the same sort of criteria were developed for bar-room karaoke, would it be a sport?

Yes. It would be a sport, not very popular from a non-drunk spectator perspective, and with minimal physical extertion involved, but it would be a sport nonetheless.

Interesting...

[StCapps]

No - no athleticism involved.

BTW, almost all sports have refs, aka individuals who hand out points, subjectively.

I don't know man, if you aren't dancing or at least wildly gesticulating along with your singing, you ain't going to win no karokee contest, drunk spectators or not. That qualifies as physical exertion even though it requires very little athleticism to pull off that exertion, it would still seem to qualify as a sport. The level of athleticism required to become skillful does not disqualify a physical activity from being a sport.

[MilSpecs]

A point system wherein points are subjectively applied. The criteria for point accrual may be objectively articulated, but the points are still handed out, subjectively, by individuals.

If the same sort of criteria were developed for bar-room karaoke, would it be a sport?

No - no athleticism involved.

BTW, almost all sports have refs, aka individuals who hand out points, subjectively.

What qualifies as athleticism, then?

The dictionary definition sounds pretty good: involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina.

For a definition of sport, I'd add "in competition."