The Left Does not Reason

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Fife » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:57 pm

I'm pretty sure I'm living a computer simulation. Can somebody download the SexBot app for me?

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by LVH2 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:57 pm

Well, one good thing about religion is that it creates a ghostbusters style containment tank for all the nutjob dogmatists. That's a big advantage on the right. Secular nutjob dogmatists just fly all over the place and it's kind of harder to segregate and placate them.


I actually think the sexbot thing won't take off the same way as people think. Hollideck would be a little better since the people seem to think and behave realistically.

Humping an inanimate object just isn't that fun. The best part of sex is really all the psychological stuff. At least to me, and I'm sure many others.

Not to get too into the sex talk. But, we see it in porn. After a while, it's not that thrilling to watch a gorgeous woman consciously looking at the camera and faking one continuous orgasm. Much better, a decent looking amateur who is really into it.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:02 pm

LVH2 wrote:Well, one good thing about religion is that it creates a ghostbusters style containment tank for all the nutjob dogmatists. .
This is one of your best statements ever. :lol:
I actually think the sexbot thing won't take off the same way as people think. Hollideck would be a little better since the people seem to think and behave realistically.

Humping an inanimate object just isn't that fun. The best part of sex is really all the psychological stuff. At least to me, and I'm sure many others.

Not to get too into the sex talk. But, we see it in porn. After a while, it's not that thrilling to watch a gorgeous woman consciously looking at the camera and faking one continuous orgasm. Much better, a decent looking amateur who is really into it.
Completely agree there.... That Turing test applies to sexbots, as well as AI... But who knows. We might have semi-sentient AI right around the time that we conquer the uncanny valley effect.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by The Conservative » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:27 pm

Fife wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm living a computer simulation. Can somebody download the SexBot app for me?
Yeah, right after we upload the frontal lobotomy the left suggested we all get before going that route.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:31 pm

DrYouth wrote: Why not? In fact the expansion of rights to certain things like basic shelter and health care is part of what some people hate about Progressivism.
Progressive Ideology does not believe in Natural Rights. Science and evolution are the foundations of the Political Theory. It is the State that gives Rights, and therefore can take them away. The uniqueness of the Classic Liberal Ideology is that all people have Inalienable Right that no one, nor any government can take from them.

DrYouth wrote:True... but the progressive idea is that one expects savings as peoples living conditions become more secure (e.g. less medical bankruptcy) in areas like crime, addictions, emergency health costs, work productivity and jails which catch a lot of the social failures... although this is certainly debatable...
We agree on this one, nuff said. The projected outcomes are an argument unto itself.

DrYouth wrote:The Government is meant to serve the individual and is still answerable to the individual in a democracy... progressives are pro-democracy.
Progressive Government serves itself and it's scientific conclusions on what is best for people and individuals. This is why it was an easy leap for Progressives to champion Eurgenics; and I know you know about that one in Canada, I think you guys ended your Eugenics campaign in the 70's or early 80's. This is also while Regime Change and Nation Building are so popular with Progs. This idea that we are smart and we can go in and show them the light. Progressive view people who don't want their idea of society as ignorant, to be fixed, taught and if that can't be done............. killed.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:59 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Hire the relatives? Pay your children to take care of you in old age, lest they toss you in a home to be neglected by strangers who are paid to save them the trouble. Gee, that sounds swell.

There is a large rift here, that you don't seem to see.
It is not a matter of desire, or of responsibility. Too many people live apart in crappy institutions because the family members that want too, can't because the rent has to be somehow. Families living on awful, unpredictable, low wage jobs often cannot help their relatives. Make it paying job for a member of family. If much of the income in the future might be common from the government, they could just increase the basic income.
This is now policy in the UK. It's called the carers allowance and enables people to look after relatives at home rather than send them to poorly run establishments which cost the government far more than the allowance paid. The only real arguments put forward against the system come from those who believe the allowance is not high enough as it is no more than basic unemployment rates.

https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit.../C ... -Allowance
The person you care for must be getting a relevant benefit because of their disability,which in some cases has to be paid at a certain rate. Carer's Allowance (CA) is paid at £62.10 a week (2015/16 rate). The amount paid is usually increased each April.


However it has led to some genuinely disabled people being reassessed and refused benefit due to fraudulent claims from unscrupulous members of society who see it as a way of avoiding looking for work.
To save money, they pay people to support themselves, and take care of sick relatives. To save more money, they then throw said sick relatives off the disabled list.

I see.

Well, the government is saving money.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by de officiis » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:01 pm

Fife wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm living a computer simulation. Can somebody download the SexBot app for me?
Get back to your simulated briefs, you sex-crazed maniac.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:11 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
It is not a matter of desire, or of responsibility. Too many people live apart in crappy institutions because the family members that want too, can't because the rent has to be somehow. Families living on awful, unpredictable, low wage jobs often cannot help their relatives. Make it paying job for a member of family. If much of the income in the future might be common from the government, they could just increase the basic income.
This is now policy in the UK. It's called the carers allowance and enables people to look after relatives at home rather than send them to poorly run establishments which cost the government far more than the allowance paid. The only real arguments put forward against the system come from those who believe the allowance is not high enough as it is no more than basic unemployment rates.

https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit.../C ... -Allowance
The person you care for must be getting a relevant benefit because of their disability,which in some cases has to be paid at a certain rate. Carer's Allowance (CA) is paid at £62.10 a week (2015/16 rate). The amount paid is usually increased each April.


However it has led to some genuinely disabled people being reassessed and refused benefit due to fraudulent claims from unscrupulous members of society who see it as a way of avoiding looking for work.
To save money, they pay people to support themselves, and take care of sick relatives. To save more money, they then throw said sick relatives off the disabled list.

I see.

Well, the government is saving money.
Or, they support relatives looking after their own at home rather than in terrible private/NHS nursing homes with saving money an additional bonus. Housing costs are also met. Would you rather bankrupt yourself paying for your loved one to die a lonely miserable death?
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:12 pm

C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Fortunately we are not going to have to wait for Star Trek Holodecks to find out if you are right. In 20 years Sexbots are going to be everywhere. I'm interested to see what happens to society after that Sexual Revolution. Doc says women are F'd, because there main commodity is between their legs. I don't necessarily agree with him, but I think there are lot of men and women that believe that is true.
Population control... no more reason to commit sexual crimes (rape, molestation, etc)... I see no downside here.

I thought Sex Crimes were about Power, not Sex ?


If it's population control we should be air dropping Sexbots in 3rd world shitholes instead of Condoms.


Some people are seriously misogynistic, if not just misanthropic. Have you seen the descriptions of some serial rapists, and murders? Some of them look just fine, and have money, even families. Yet they have some seriously evil desires.

If it is not about power, or anger, but sex, I would think Molly Palm would do as well as the Sexbots. :ugeek:
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:13 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
This is now policy in the UK. It's called the carers allowance and enables people to look after relatives at home rather than send them to poorly run establishments which cost the government far more than the allowance paid. The only real arguments put forward against the system come from those who believe the allowance is not high enough as it is no more than basic unemployment rates.

https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit.../C ... -Allowance


However it has led to some genuinely disabled people being reassessed and refused benefit due to fraudulent claims from unscrupulous members of society who see it as a way of avoiding looking for work.
To save money, they pay people to support themselves, and take care of sick relatives. To save more money, they then throw said sick relatives off the disabled list.

I see.

Well, the government is saving money.
Or, they support relatives looking after their own at home rather than in terrible private/NHS nursing homes with saving money an additional bonus. Housing costs are also met. Would you rather bankrupt yourself paying for your loved one to die a lonely miserable death?
Sounds just like the United States.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.