THE ERA OF TRUMP

[TheReal_ND]

The CIA's assessment that the Russians favored Trump was not based on any single piece of new intelligence, officials briefed on the matter told NBC News. Instead, it was the result of more stringent analysis of a growing body of circumstantial evidence more detailed than anything the public has seen.

Human sources, communications intercepts and other intelligence have allowed analysts to piece together the identities of some of the players, and the steps they took to hurt Clinton's candidacy while boosting Trump's, officials said.

The CIA also noted that while Russian hackers gathered information on Republicans, they didn't release any of it, the way they did with Democratic emails leaked to WikiLeaks. The Republican National Committee denies its systems were hacked, but the emails of individual Republicans were collected — something NBC News reported in October.

The CIA also tracked a campaign of anti-Clinton news stories amplified by social media, some of which originated with Russian state media outlets, officials told NBC News

n October, DNI Clapper and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson issued an extraordinary joint statement that "the U.S. Intelligence Community is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

One source familiar with the intelligence said it included profiles of some of the suspects with pictures, and could lead to eventual indictments of specific Russian actors, if the Justice Department decides to pursue them.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why ... in-n695131

Still no sources other than the CIA saying they have sources. Well that's fine then. They should build their case and bring it to court.

[Smitty-48]

Clapper and Co. are really fucking the CIA here, trying to take on the incomming President on behalf of the outgoing one's party, Trump needs to go Stalinist purge on the leadership at Langley, but even then, the agency is going to be dimished until they establish trust with the new West Wing, pretty much handing everything over to Mattis and JSOC by dying on this hill.

[TheReal_ND]

Calpper and Co.

I was actually wondering how the fuck the CIA is acting so out of order talking to the press and not just building a case to hand to the DOJ.

[Smitty-48]

Calpper and Co.

I was actually wondering how the fuck the CIA is acting so out of order talking to the press and not just building a case to hand to the DOJ.

They don't hand shit to the DOJ, they report straight to the WH, the CIA is not authorized to conduct law enforcement, nothing they collect is admissable in court, this is not evidence, this is intel, but actually, it's not even that, it's just Clapper and Co, speculating, as you say, out of order and in the media, on behalf of Trumps politcal enemies, only one month before the agency will be reporting to Trump.

This is out of order in a Nixonian sense, the CIA reporting to a poltical agenda of one party at the direction of that party's leader, which will taint the agency, long after Clapper and Co have been purged.

[Dand]

Calpper and Co.

I was actually wondering how the fuck the CIA is acting so out of order talking to the press and not just building a case to hand to the DOJ.

Because it's just propaganda, of course. If Trump actually filed his taxes illegally the IRS would have charged him and if he was actually engaged in espionage with Russia the CIA/NSA(Clapper) would have exposed him. Unless they can provide evidence then they've got nothing to convince us with. Clapper is retiring and has already disgraced himself and the NSA by lying to Congress. Our gov is corrupt enough that he isn't in jail but we all know he is a liar.

The FBI, by the way, has made an official statement that they don't believe there is evidence that Russia hacked and effected our election. I do not say that to say "FBI good, CIA bad". I'm just pointing it out to counter the argument that "intelligence agency knows best, take their word for it".

[TheReal_ND]

Two U.S. representatives accused Clapper of perjury for telling a congressional committee in March 2013, that the NSA does not collect any type of data at all on millions of Americans. One senator asked for his resignation, and a group of 26 senators complained about Clapper's responses under questioning. Media observers have described Clapper as having lied under oath, having obstructed justice, and having given false testimony.

Yeah I'm going to want a better source.

[Smitty-48]

The FBI is not playing the CIA's game, because Comey ain't going nowhere, Comey is going to be working for Trump for the next four years, Clapper is doing this, because Clapper is toast and he knows it, this is just parting shots on the way out the door, and he doesn't care if the agency suffers for it, because he's not going to be there.

And this is Obama giving Clapper his marching orders here, because no way the CIA would be chirping out of order in the media, without the leave of the President, maybe Clapper is going to work for Obama after, as Obama says he's sticking around town.

[TheReal_ND]

Well now I feel like hard searching for CF or Soros money trails.

[ssu]

Clapper and Co. are really fucking the CIA here - The FBI is not playing the CIA's game, because Comey ain't going nowhere, Comey is going to be working for Trump for the next four years, Clapper is doing this, because Clapper is toast and he knows it, this is just parting shots on the way out the door, and he doesn't care if the agency suffers for it, because he's not going to be there.

And this is Obama giving Clapper his marching orders here, because no way the CIA would be chirping out of order in the media, without the leave of the President, maybe Clapper is going to work for Obama after, as Obama says he's sticking around town.

Smitty, your mixing up the officials here.

Not Clapper. Brennan is the CIA Director.

And lol. After all the Comey letters, I think the FBI knows the political game here quite well. Quite easy to understand that the FBI is playing it's cards here for the incoming Trump administration.

trying to take on the incomming President on behalf of the outgoing one's party, Trump needs to go Stalinist purge on the leadership at Langley, but even then, the agency is going to be dimished until they establish trust with the new West Wing, pretty much handing everything over to Mattis and JSOC by dying on this hill.

Pompeo will likely do his job. But going full Turkey here isn't going to help.

The FBI, by the way, has made an official statement that they don't believe there is evidence that Russia hacked and effected our election

Nope, wrong.

The FBI, however — while agreeing that the hacking campaign originated in Russia — has been reluctant to align itself with the CIA and assign a motive to the cyberattacks. A senior FBI counterintelligence told the House Intelligence Committee last week that the bureau was still not sure whether Russia's "specific goal" was to get Trump elected.

"There's no question that [the Russians'] efforts went one way, but it's not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals," a US official present at the hearing said.

See here

As I said, Comey is playing his cards for working with the Trump administration. Brennan is going out, replaced with Pompeo. Trump echochamber stuff thing this idea FBI is seeing Russians doing nothing here.

[Smitty-48]

Not Clapper. Brennan is the CIA Director.

Oh, sorry, Clapper was just on tv peddling this ZOMG Trump stuff, so that must be why I mixed them up.