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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:18 pm

jediuser598 wrote:Elizabeth Warren. That's the future of the democratic party, at least if they're smart. (they're not)

Liberals and centrists legit like both her and Sanders. I heard over and over again from Democrats I know, "I wish Warren was running."
Liberals and centrists in urbane hipster Blue Cities maybe, which is political suicide for the Democrats, she wouldn't take one Red district from the GOP.

Trump didn't win because he took Red districts, Trump won because he took Blue districts, the Democrats are too far Left already, Liz Warren would be doubling down on a losing strategy.
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Post by jediuser598 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:20 pm

I know you guys don't know the minds of liberals these days, so thought I'd give you some insight into who we're hoping for, hopefully this time she'll run.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:23 pm

jediuser598 wrote:I know you guys don't know the minds of liberals these days, so thought I'd give you some insight into who we're hoping for, hopefully this time she'll run.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

they're playing it pretty close to the chest, guys.

fucking hell, that is the laugh of the week.
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Post by jediuser598 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:24 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:Elizabeth Warren. That's the future of the democratic party, at least if they're smart. (they're not)

Liberals and centrists legit like both her and Sanders. I heard over and over again from Democrats I know, "I wish Warren was running."
Liberals and centrists in urbane hipster Blue Cities maybe, which is political suicide for the Democrats, she wouldn't take one Red district from the GOP.

Trump didn't win because he took Red districts, Trump won because he took Blue districts, the Democrats are too far Left already, Liz Warren would be doubling down on a losing strategy.
The losing strategy was Hillary Clinton, a scumbag. Sanders would have had a much better chance, especially if his VP was Warren.

And going hard towards your base doesn't work? Look at what Trump did, said some of the most insane, hard right shit, and still won. This country wants to go full retard.
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Post by jediuser598 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:26 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:I know you guys don't know the minds of liberals these days, so thought I'd give you some insight into who we're hoping for, hopefully this time she'll run.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

they're playing it pretty close to the chest, guys.

fucking hell, that is the laugh of the week.
Man, what happened to you? You used to be a pretty cool guy, now you're not even capitalizing your sentences, nor are you putting forth real arguments, while also trying your best to hurt other forum members. Where's the old Okee? You've been around ND for too long.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:26 pm

jediuser598 wrote:I know you guys don't know the minds of liberals these days, so thought I'd give you some insight into who we're hoping for, hopefully this time she'll run.
It's not about what liberals think, it's about what districts are in play, the districts that Liz Warren could win, the liberals already have, increasing the liberal vote in Blue districts, does absolutely nothing for the Democrats when it comes to actually winning the elections.

She can't win in the suburbs, she can't win in the exurbs, she can't win rural, she's not a contender outside of solidly Blue districts, which again, are not in play, and irrelevant to winning.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:29 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:Elizabeth Warren. That's the future of the democratic party, at least if they're smart. (they're not)

Liberals and centrists legit like both her and Sanders. I heard over and over again from Democrats I know, "I wish Warren was running."
Liberals and centrists in urbane hipster Blue Cities maybe, which is political suicide for the Democrats, she wouldn't take one Red district from the GOP.

Trump didn't win because he took Red districts, Trump won because he took Blue districts, the Democrats are too far Left already, Liz Warren would be doubling down on a losing strategy.
The losing strategy was Hillary Clinton, a scumbag. Sanders would have had a much better chance, especially if his VP was Warren.

And going hard towards your base doesn't work? Look at what Trump did, said some of the most insane, hard right shit, and still won. This country wants to go full retard.
First off, Smitty's gonna have a better response.

How do you explain losing your blue wall?

They were blue, then they weren't.

How did Trump go to the Republican base, and in doing so take the deciding states that made up the Democratic base?

Have you given any thought at all to that question?
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Post by jediuser598 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:31 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:I know you guys don't know the minds of liberals these days, so thought I'd give you some insight into who we're hoping for, hopefully this time she'll run.
It's not about what liberals think, it's about what districts are in play, the districts that Liz Warren could win, the liberals already have, increasing the liberal vote in Blue districts, does absolutely nothing for the Democrats when it comes to actually winning the elections.
We'll see. I'd volunteer to help out her campaign, and I've never volunteered to help out anyone's campaign. I hate democrats nearly as much as I hate republicans. She's awesome though.

Will she definitely win? I dunno, but I'd vote for her. I'm a bit more insulated from Republicanism than most people though, being that I live in Washington State, so if she loses, this country just continues to go down the same shitty path. Locally, we're doing good.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:35 pm

Whatever, you're a poster child for why the GOP will have its salty fat cock up your ass for years to come, particularly after they take total control of the SCOTUS, not to call you a loser, but people like you are why the Left can't win in America, you're all feelz, no strategy.

Bear in mind, Trump is not actually a conservative, he's a New York big government liberal who simply made a nationalist appeal to the GOP base, he won because he straddled the center, not because he doubled down on the Right, the Democrats doubling down on the Left is not the path to beat the GOP, if you want to win, you have to run someone from the Left, who would be able to appeal to the GOP base, and Liz Warren, sure ain't that.
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Post by jediuser598 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:45 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Whatever, you're a poster child for why the GOP will have its salty fat cock up your ass for years to come, particularly after they take total control of the SCOTUS, not to call you a loser, but people like you are why the Left can't win in America, you're all feelz, no strategy.

Bear in mind, Trump is not actually a conservative, he's a New York big government liberal who simply made a nationalist appeal to the GOP base, he won because he straddled the center, not because he doubled down on the Right, the Democrats doubling down on the Left is not the path to beat the GOP, if you want to win, you have to run someone from the Left, who would be able to appeal to the GOP base, and Liz Warren, sure ain't that.
It's funny isn't it? Am I the only one that sees the hilarity of the GOP adopting a philanderer as their leader, a fabulous gay man as one of their spokesman, and the left is going all guns and facism, as well as anti-free speech? They sure went away with that "Violence solves nothing."

This country wants to burn, and everyone is holding torches.

I don't determine democratic strategy. I'm just saying if they ran Warren, I'd volunteer for that campaign, otherwise fuck'em. I'm doing my part in this participatory democracy, I vote every time. What more can a person do? Look at Carlin, guy has been at it for how long, and how much has he changed?
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