Daniel Shaver shooting

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by The Conservative » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:23 am

heydaralon wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Kath wrote: You know, it's not against the law to go a full day without typing something stupid. Try it sometime, you might find out you like it.
I could say the same thing about your diatribe at times too... especially since you seem to forget that the person that killed OJ's wife, was taller than OJ...
His son planted all that DNA too.
The DNA was not 100% his, it had enough of a genetic drift in where it could have been his son.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:24 am

DBTrek wrote:Indeed, juries return verdicts that people disagree with. If the people disagreeing are black StA will tell you that obviously those folks are genetically unable to integrate into western civilization.

If the folks disagreeing are StA then he’ll tell you vigilante justice is just around the corner, cops are an incurable evil, the system is collapsing into anarchy, and he’d like to hunt down the rogue cop himself.

Which is a reaction entirely compatible with western civilization when it comes from him. Incompatible if it comes from poor folks in Ferguson. See how that works?
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LMFAO.

You're still mad about that red assing..

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by heydaralon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:32 am

Did you guys hear about that Big tobacco case where Marlboro got off?

It was a lung jury!
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:47 am

Kath wrote:Not sure how there's support for the cop. 'Cause jury? Nah. A jury said OJ didn't do it, but nobody believes that. :roll:
Well, the prosecution was overconfident in the OJ Simpson trial as well.

The situation here seems like the prosecution might have thought "we've got the video, that's all we need", but in fact the video actually favours the defense.

The prosecution could have got a conviction for manslaughter methinks, but instead they tried to knock it out of the park; mens rea for murder? Swing and a miss.

He's guilty 'cause outraged internet torch and pitchfork? Nah, that's not how it works.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by K@th » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:52 am

So if the cop's job was to neutralize the threat and he accomplished that, why the need to restore the threat and how does that display confidence in the cop?

He half-assed his job and an innocent man died for it.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:53 am

Kath wrote:So if the cop's job was to neutralize the threat and he accomplished that, why the need to restore the threat and how does that display confidence in the cop?

He half-assed his job and an innocent man died for it.
OK, but that's not murder in of itself, hence the prosecution arguably overcharged him, and apparently a jury of his peers thought so too.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by K@th » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:55 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
OK, but that's not murder in of itself, hence the prosecution arguably overcharged him, and apparently a jury of his peers thought so too.
Bet that if MY incompetence cause an innocent person's death, I would not get away with it. Cops should be held to AT LEAST the same standard as me.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by DBTrek » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:01 pm

Kath wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
OK, but that's not murder in of itself, hence the prosecution arguably overcharged him, and apparently a jury of his peers thought so too.
Bet that if MY incompetence cause an innocent person's death, I would not get away with it. Cops should be held to AT LEAST the same standard as me.
When the state repeatedly asks you to enter dangerous situations on their behalf, perhaps your analogy will be relevant.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by SilverEagle » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:03 pm

DBTrek wrote:Pointing a gun out the window was stupid.
Not following instructions multiple times with a gun pointed at you is stupid.
In this case stupid ran up a special kind of hothead, power drunk arrogance that resulted in death.
Could’ve resulted in murder, but that call was for the jury to make.
And the jury got it wrong.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:03 pm

Kath wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
OK, but that's not murder in of itself, hence the prosecution arguably overcharged him, and apparently a jury of his peers thought so too.
Bet that if MY incompetence cause an innocent person's death, I would not get away with it. Cops should be held to AT LEAST the same standard as me.
Well, I wouldn't necessarily convict you of murder in this situation neither, you're not going to be doing tactical sweep and clears for gun calls that come over the radio, but if Daniel Shaver broke into your house, and in the process of you trying to subdue him, he appeared to reach for a gun and you shot him, but it turned out that it wasn't a gun after all, that's not 2nd degree murder by default.
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