Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

[Smitty-48]

Monte's max argument level is "You're a Nazi!"

''You're a Nazi'' isn't an argument it's a statement of fact.
The argument to support it is here in this thread in nearly every one of your posts. How else do you explain the ramblings of a SIFCLF who says things like ''America was built by white men.'' I showed you Chinese labourers and engineers building the railroad which made America but you ignored that. Millions of black slaves created your wealth and the mongrel mix of cultures which make up American culture are far from ''all white.'' You fail to acknowledge any contributions made by non-whites which shows you up as the white supremacist you clearly are.

To be fair, America was built mostly by white people, you are reaching here Monte. That has become less and less the case over time, but StA never denied that was the case.

The ethos of America was largely "built" by the Scots, Scottish Enlightenment > Glorious Revolution > American Revolution.

It actually all starts in Scotland, with the Education Act of 1496.

[Montegriffo]

Monte's max argument level is "You're a Nazi!"

''You're a Nazi'' isn't an argument it's a statement of fact.
The argument to support it is here in this thread in nearly every one of your posts. How else do you explain the ramblings of a SIFCLF who says things like ''America was built by white men.'' I showed you Chinese labourers and engineers building the railroad which made America but you ignored that. Millions of black slaves created your wealth and the mongrel mix of cultures which make up American culture are far from ''all white.'' You fail to acknowledge any contributions made by non-whites which shows you up as the white supremacist you clearly are.

To be fair, America was built mostly by white people, you are reaching here Monte. That has become less and less the case over time, but StA never denied that was the case.

Well the white men were the ones weilding the whips but the hard work was done by yellow and black men in many cases. Non whites have also carried far more than their fair share of the front line fighting in many of America's wars too.

[SuburbanFarmer]

''You're a Nazi'' isn't an argument it's a statement of fact.
The argument to support it is here in this thread in nearly every one of your posts. How else do you explain the ramblings of a SIFCLF who says things like ''America was built by white men.'' I showed you Chinese labourers and engineers building the railroad which made America but you ignored that. Millions of black slaves created your wealth and the mongrel mix of cultures which make up American culture are far from ''all white.'' You fail to acknowledge any contributions made by non-whites which shows you up as the white supremacist you clearly are.

To be fair, America was built mostly by white people, you are reaching here Monte. That has become less and less the case over time, but StA never denied that was the case.

Well the white men were the ones weilding the whips but the hard work was done by yellow and black men in many cases. Non whites have also carried far more than their fair share of the front line fighting in many of America's wars too.

If Saving Private Ryan taught me anything, it’s that only good looking white people fought WW2.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

To be fair, America was built mostly by white people, you are reaching here Monte. That has become less and less the case over time, but StA never denied that was the case.

Well the white men were the ones weilding the whips but the hard work was done by yellow and black men in many cases. Non whites have also carried far more than their fair share of the front line fighting in many of America's wars too.

If Saving Private Ryan taught me anything, it’s that only good looking white people fought WW2.

If Forrest Gump taught me anything, only retards fought in Vietnam.

BOOM!

[Fife]

If The Deer Hunter taught me anything, . . . aw, fuck all y'all.

[Speaker to Animals]

That is a very creative way of reading my arguments. But then, what else would I expect from someone who imagines the world before 1965 was a near perfect Eden of conflict free ethno-states.

That's also a clever way of reading my argument.

I don't believe it was all laughs and bliss before 1965, but most of the problems we actually did have stemmed from what "diversity" we already had saddled ourselves with, so I can't imagine why you'd want to dig up that particular aspect of our history in defense of increasing diversity..

And it seemed to me you attacked the idea of the ethno-state on the basis of incessant warfare. In the context of this discussion, it's implied you intend for multi-racial society to somehow be more peaceful on the global scale -- which isn't that big of an assumption considering it is one of the cornerstones of globalist thinking. Remember when they used to say two nations with MacDonald's never went to war? That one was really clever up until that time we bombed the Mickey D in Belgrade.

But more to the point, given that most of our nation's internal strife stemmed from "diversity", what makes you think you can improve things by increasing "diversity"?

Just paying in kind.

If you mean by 'most of our nation's internal strife stemmed from diversity' that we have had trouble squaring our enlightenment values with a history of enslavement, then you have a very weird way of defining things. I suppose you could say that the Civil War was a 'diversity' problem, but that would be a very idiomatic use of the term.

The point is that diversity comes with humanity because we do not share a hive-mind. Race, culture, and ethnicity are all very slippery categories that are difficult to base laws on, at least if you want to maintain any semblance of a free and open society. If you do not value a free and open society, then we simply have irreconcilable goals for our society, so it is probably a good thing that we live in a society where we can disagree in a civil way about these things.

The "Idea of a White Ethno State" is so ill-defined that it is impossible to support or criticize in a meaningful way.

The American Civil War was literally a diversity problem. Not just a problem of the slavery that the southern slave lords perpetuated, but a problem of the distinct cultures that inhabited this land (cultural diversity). But also the Indian Wars were diversity problems. The problem of integrating just European immigrants, who were most like the rest of us, was a diversity problem. The rise of the mafia was a diversity problem.

Differences create conflict. The bigger the differences, the more potential for greater conflict. This isn't difficult to understand. We all know this to be true at every level. What makes Thanksgiving dinner suck so much? Differences of opinion. That is, diversity of opinion. Or sometimes it's just flat out diversity problems when mom doesn't like that cute Peurto Rican chick you are dating. Or because uncle Rodney decided he is a fucking Vegan and everything on the table is murder, and he is going to remind everybody with ever last Goddamned bite.

Bringing in radically different people is usually a really bad idea. Sometimes.. it kind of works out. Once they got past that whole "you ate my friends after sacrificing them to your demon god" and "you sunk half our city into the lake" problems, the Spanish and Mexica were perfect for one another. But still, conflict was just under the surface, and eventually the Mexica kicked the Spanish out a few centuries later. The Mayans are the craziest. Did you know there was still a militant Mayan state up into the 1800s? Those guys do not like Mexica one bit.

Creating differences just for the sake of differences is not a rational approach to maintaining your nation state. You have to consider what conflicts will arise and how to mitigate them. You have to decide if you really need that conflict in the first place.

[Speaker to Animals]

If The Deer Hunter taught me anything, . . . aw, fuck all y'all.

Not sure about that, but the Deerslayer taught me that it's good to build a fortified house on a lake.

[Speaker to Animals]

''You're a Nazi'' isn't an argument it's a statement of fact.
The argument to support it is here in this thread in nearly every one of your posts. How else do you explain the ramblings of a SIFCLF who says things like ''America was built by white men.'' I showed you Chinese labourers and engineers building the railroad which made America but you ignored that. Millions of black slaves created your wealth and the mongrel mix of cultures which make up American culture are far from ''all white.'' You fail to acknowledge any contributions made by non-whites which shows you up as the white supremacist you clearly are.

To be fair, America was built mostly by white people, you are reaching here Monte. That has become less and less the case over time, but StA never denied that was the case.

The ethos of America was largely "built" by the Scots, Scottish Enlightenment > Glorious Revolution > American Revolution.

It actually all starts in Scotland, with the Education Act of 1496.

Adam Smith.

[Fife]

To be fair, America was built mostly by white people, you are reaching here Monte. That has become less and less the case over time, but StA never denied that was the case.

The ethos of America was largely "built" by the Scots, Scottish Enlightenment > Glorious Revolution > American Revolution.

It actually all starts in Scotland, with the Education Act of 1496.

Adam Smith.

Hmmm . . . now we're sniffing around the roots. #winning

[Smitty-48]

Adam Smith is like the culmination of 300 years of Scottish Enlightenment, but it all starts with the first mandated compulsory school system in the world, Education Act of 1496.