THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:39 pm

Kath wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... -wall.html

How stupid does he think we are?
President Trump’s plan to make Mexico pay for the wall he intends to build on the southern border may have taken shape Thursday, when his spokesman suggested imposing a 20-percent import tax on Mexican goods.
Lying again... FFS. Raising our prices by 20% is not Mexico paying for the wall. It's making us pay for the wall. Madness, this wall is.
That was walked back yesterday by that same spokesman. Slow on the draw, those FOX folks.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:39 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote: you should keep putting money into them.
WE agree on a lot of this stuff, except maybe I have doubt about ^ this part where you are being sarcastic.

2008 metldown scared everyone into realizing how vulnerable/overleveraged/fraudulent the system is.

But maybe it should have informed me that no matter what happens, we can fake this thing back into a hockey stick graph, and we will stop at nothing to do it (Bank of Japan owns more than half the entire Japanese ETF market, Euro bank now buying corp bonds so the corps can go do infinite buy backs, we got QE/Operations Twist/ZIRP, who the fuck knows what china is doing).

So yeah, this is not a "market", this is fake -- but even simply assuming the veracity of my criticisms, it doesn't follow that we are gonna have a return to price discovery.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:40 pm

FUCK IM NOT PAYING AN EXTRA NICKLE FOR MY TORTILLA CHIPS FUCK YOU TRUMP I GUESS WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH ILLEGALS NOW

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:41 pm

apeman wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote: you should keep putting money into them.
WE agree on a lot of this stuff, except maybe I have doubt about ^ this part where you are being sarcastic.

2008 metldown scared everyone into realizing how vulnerable/overleveraged/fraudulent the system is.

But maybe it should have informed me that no matter what happens, we can fake this thing back into a hockey stick graph, and we will stop at nothing to do it (Bank of Japan owns more than half the entire Japanese ETF market, Euro bank now buying corp bonds so the corps can go do infinite buy backs, we got QE/Operations Twist/ZIRP, who the fuck knows what china is doing).

So yeah, this is not a "market", this is fake -- but even simply assuming the veracity of my criticisms, it doesn't follow that we are gonna have a return to price discovery.
I can agree with that. But there is simply no way that it makes sense to have money in the market right now, unless you think it's just going to be forced upward for the rest of your investing lifetime. There will be a crash, and that will be the time to put it all on black. Right now, it's just a game of Greater Fools.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:50 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:I can agree with that. But there is simply no way that it makes sense to have money in the market right now, unless you think it's just going to be forced upward for the rest of your investing lifetime. There will be a crash, and that will be the time to put it all on black. Right now, it's just a game of Greater Fools.
Too hyperbolic -- what if we get legit inflation? Yellen announced she will let it run hot, every bank has been intentionally trying to spark inflation for a decade now -- what if it happens?

These key players in the great manipulation are literally telling you what they are trying to accomplish with full intent -- wise to at least consider the possibility they succeed.

Don't go 100% cash.

(my trading account is 2/3 cash, all I do is lose out so far)

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:54 pm

We're still a good 15+ years from retirement. Our financial planner isn't worried about the Stock Market in the long term. She'd be easing us out if we were retiring in a year or two.

Stock market is for the long game.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by doc_loliday » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:58 pm

I read of a Mexican boycott of American companies and it reminded me of something I thought Trump ought to do. It occurred to me that Trump should say something like, "America is going to adopt the immigration policy of Mexico", which of course is very severe, eg, they quickly deport any illegal immigrants from south America, regardless of whether it breaks up families, removes children from their parents, etc. The hypocrisy is stunning. It's worth mentioning that many, many Mexicans are extremely racist against central and south Americans.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:00 pm

Ayyy I see you hiding Dan!

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:02 pm

apeman wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:I can agree with that. But there is simply no way that it makes sense to have money in the market right now, unless you think it's just going to be forced upward for the rest of your investing lifetime. There will be a crash, and that will be the time to put it all on black. Right now, it's just a game of Greater Fools.
Too hyperbolic -- what if we get legit inflation? Yellen announced she will let it run hot, every bank has been intentionally trying to spark inflation for a decade now -- what if it happens?

These key players in the great manipulation are literally telling you what they are trying to accomplish with full intent -- wise to at least consider the possibility they succeed.

Don't go 100% cash.

(my trading account is 2/3 cash, all I do is lose out so far)
You're working from the idea that the stocks will automatically rise to match inflation? Sure, over the Grand LongTerm Period they will.

Or do you mean that American megacorps will suddenly be more profitable because of it? They won't, but the numbers will be slightly more bigly.

Face it, there is absolutely nothing holding us up at these ridiculous heights, except Fed manipulation. QE is over, and rates are rising. Man the lifeboats.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:09 pm

For the first time in my adult life, I am utterly unsure about the markets. I've been eying buying--especially fun stuff like Colorado marijuana--but instead have left nearly everything alone, just reinvesting the steady dividends. I anticipate a hit, however, and soon, but it's really just shits and giggles for me.
I'd like to see WALL BONDS with a serious inflation indexed return!
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