Our Guy Flynn

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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by StCapps » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:59 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Yeah, the idea that Trump was elected to be a "non-interventionist" is patent nonsense, what Trump simply said is "Interventionist, but on our terms, to our benefit, and we better be getting paid for this shit, nobody rides for free, motherfuckers"
If I were Stephan Bonnar, my response would be "exactamundo".
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by kybkh » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:01 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Yeah, the idea that Trump was elected to be a "non-interventionist" is patent nonsense, what Trump simply said is "Interventionist, but on our terms, to our benefit, and we better be getting paid for this shit, nobody rides for free, motherfuckers"

The most Trump supporters hoped of Trump re:anti-war sentiment was backing away from Russian conflict.

Everything else was on the table.

When redpilling my friends the HRC=WW3 angle got a lot of positive feedback. Especially from my Puerto Rican and Palestinian friends.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:29 pm

kybkh wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Yeah, the idea that Trump was elected to be a "non-interventionist" is patent nonsense, what Trump simply said is "Interventionist, but on our terms, to our benefit, and we better be getting paid for this shit, nobody rides for free, motherfuckers"

The most Trump supporters hoped of Trump re:anti-war sentiment was backing away from Russian conflict.

Everything else was on the table.

When redpilling my friends the HRC=WW3 angle got a lot of positive feedback. Especially from my Puerto Rican and Palestinian friends.
Russia conflict is on the table, don't kid yourself, Mr. Ivan ain't going away, America ain't pulling out of NATO, that doesn't mean World War Three, but Cold War 2.0 remains in effect, make no mistake, because Trump ain't chucking the arms race under the bus, bet dat.

Did he say he was going cease developing and deploying BMD? Prompt Global Strike? B-21? X-37? No? OK then, buckle up for more dancing and dicing with Mr. Ivan, baked into that cake.

Doesn't actually have anything to do with Article V, folks, Cold War 2.0 is all about an arms race, and as Trump continues to engage in one, Mr. Ivan will continue to retaliate in kind, and tensions will ratchet up by default as you go.

It's not about ideology, it's not about Latvia, it's all about the nukes, and it always was.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by kybkh » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:43 pm

I dig it, just saying that the most people hoped for out of Trump as far as foreign policy goes was a lessened likelihood of a war with RU.

Some hoped for cooperation with RU in fighting terrorism but I don't know any who thought Trump's America 1st policy meant we were gonna stop blowing up mud huts in AF/PK.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:46 pm

kybkh wrote:I dig it, just saying that the most people hoped for out of Trump as far as foreign policy goes is a lessened likelihood of a war with RU.
Clearly most people do not understand the ramifications of Trump's FoPo if it is actually executed as he has demanded, do you realize how big and scary the German military gets, if the Germans were to actually spend 2% GDP on their military?

You wanna see the Russians go off? Get NATO to spend the 2%, then you're going to see some sparks fly, make no mistake

If all of NATO spends 2% GDP on defense, we will be on the brink of war, I shit you not, that would be an escalation which the Russians will react to as preparations for war, there's no other way for them to interpret it, considering the relative balance of power right now vs. NATO at 2%

We already overmatch them by several orders of magnitude, but we're going to go on a multi-trillion dollar build up from here?
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by kybkh » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:57 pm

:think:
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:02 pm

kybkh wrote::think:
NATO, 2% GDP, every year, year after year, compounding; that is a massive build up, prepaparations for World War Three, by default.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by ssu » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:42 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
kybkh wrote:I dig it, just saying that the most people hoped for out of Trump as far as foreign policy goes is a lessened likelihood of a war with RU.
Clearly most people do not understand the ramifications of Trump's FoPo if it is actually executed as he has demanded, do you realize how big and scary the German military gets, if the Germans were to actually spend 2% GDP on their military?
Now Germany is promising to increase spending by 2 billion and by 2020 to by 4 billion in all (which would be then 39 billion).

The actual amounts of spending.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:21 pm

ssu wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
kybkh wrote:I dig it, just saying that the most people hoped for out of Trump as far as foreign policy goes is a lessened likelihood of a war with RU.
Clearly most people do not understand the ramifications of Trump's FoPo if it is actually executed as he has demanded, do you realize how big and scary the German military gets, if the Germans were to actually spend 2% GDP on their military?
Now Germany is promising to increase spending by 2 billion and by 2020 to by 4 billion in all (which would be then 39 billion)
But if the Germans actually went to 2% GDP, they would be spending 71 billion Euros, which is 75 billion USD, which means that just Germany alone, would be spending 10% more than the Russians, now add every single NATO country doing that, and the Russians will take it as preparations for World War Three, because technically, it would be, de facto is all Mr. Ivan sees, he doesn't care what you say is de jure.
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Re: Our Man Flynn

Post by C-Mag » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:30 am

Here is a great article on all this Flynn stuff, the Deep State and FISA Courts.
http://reason.com/archives/2017/02/23/r ... deep-state
The chickens have come home to roost. In our misguided efforts to keep the country safe, we have neglected to keep it free. We have enabled a deep state to become powerful enough to control a powerful president. We have placed so much data and so much power in the hands of unelected, unaccountable, opaque spies that they can use it as they see fit — even to the point of committing federal felonies. Now some have boasted that they can manipulate and thus control the president of the United States by selectively revealing and concealing what they know about anyone, including the president himself.

This is a perilous state of affairs, brought about by the maniacal passion for surveillance spawned under George W. Bush and perfected under Barack Obama — all with utter indifference to the widespread constitutional violations and permanent destruction of personal liberties.

This is not the government the Framers gave us. But it is one far more dangerous to human freedom than the one from which they seceded in 1776.
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