THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:50 pm

Kath wrote:Federal employees do not sit in the presence of the president unless he tells them to sit down. He didn't tell them to sit down. That's not a standing ovation, Capps. Geez.
Whatever. Who cares? So they were already standing when they gave him a standing ovation, yawnville. This is the shit you are getting upset about? Your priorities are fucked lady.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:53 pm

No. You mistake my tone. I'm not upset. I'm disgusted that this man turns everything into a dick measuring contest. If it's NO BIG DEAL than why does he keep talking about his huge standing ovation? Seriously.

It doesn't matter to you Trumpologists that he lies to the public so blatantly. He's got the bigliest ego. Believe me. It needs constant stroking and Melania isn't there to do it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:54 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:Trump on torture at today's press conference;

"Mattis will override because I'm giving him that power. ... I'm going to rely on him..., he's an expert, he's highly respected, he's the General's General.. I happen to feel that it does work ... but I am going with our leaders."


On Putin and Russia;

"I don't say good, bad, or indifferent, I don't know the gentleman, I hope we have a fantastic relationship, that's possible, but it's also possible that we wont, we will see what happens, I will be representing the American people, very, very strongly, very forcefully... if we have a great relationship with Russia... and go after ISIS together, I will consider that a good thing not a bad thing, how the relationship works out, I will have to tell you later, I've had many times where I thought I would get along with people, and now I don't like them at all."
Great stuff

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:01 pm

He's definitely saying some good things when he takes a break from showing us how bigly his penis is.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by jbird4049 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:02 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
StCapps wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:At this rate, his expansion of executive power is going to make Obama look like Ghandi.
Just because Trump is signing a bunch of executive orders out the gate doesn't mean he's taking power from the public, just the opposite he's giving it back by rolling back many of Obama's exec orders that took power from congress in the first place. You might want to wait until Trump starts overly expanding executive power with executive orders before you start criticizing his use of them, crying wolf will just lead to people not believing you if he actually does start doing so.
He's neutered the ACA - which was the result of a multi-year debate in congress, he's written an order to build a gigantic fucking wall - which had NOT been funded by congress, and he's frozen regulations and hiring for all government agencies - effectively usurping the authority of the entire federal government. In a week.

Nah it's fine tho cause feels good rite?
Congress is suppose to be actively managing, and in charge of supposedly, the most powerful branch of government. Constitution was designed to do that. It has the power of taxation, and spending. It could impeach the President. It could pass a veto proof bill tomorrow eliminating Homeland Security, or fund the growing of kumquats in the Antarctic. There are times when the Speaker of the House, or the even the Senate's President Pro Tempore had more effective power than the President.

However, Congress has progressively become a corrupt, narcissistic, herd of cats, that don't want to work with anyone, or take responsibility for such things as a declaration of war. It might hurt their chances for re-election.

To be fair this process has been going on since the Civil War, with the President slowly usurping Congressional authority, and with it sometimes flows back to Congress. But as an institution, Congress has loss the memory of actually being an active, powerful, and effective, branch of government. Its members are usually more concerned with acquiring money needed for their elections, and avoiding any possible responsibility of any possibly controversial legislative actions that give any possible bad publicity.

There has always been some corruption, and some avoidance of responsibility in Congress. They are human after all, but lately, it seems to overflowing with man-children, and children can't run a government.

So man-child Trump's actions, and Congress' man-children's responses, are merely a continuation of the past.

God help us.

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
StCapps wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:How do we (the people) know when to take one seriously then? How do we debate the actions, if we're flooded with nonsense most of the time?
You don't. That's all part of Trump's plan.
When you encounter a situation that is working great except for one identifiable problem, you can focus on the problem and try to fix it. But if you have a dozen complaints at the same time, none of them looks special. The whole situation just looks confusing, and you don’t know where to start.
Trump is playing you and the media by giving you so many distractions to focus on, you can't make sense of any of it, too much noise to sort through, and as a result you have fallen right into his trap.
Like I said, it's an excellent plan for seizing total control. He's doing it well. There might not be much of a country left when he's finished, but he's good at what he's doing - whether he knows it or not.
The man is not stupid, and his election was really improbable, but he got elected partly because of his deliberate actions.

Since one of his strengths is using PR BS on people to get what he wants, including the Presidency, that's what his is doing. I just don't think he really knew what he wanted before he got elected.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:03 pm

Kath wrote:If it's NO BIG DEAL than why does he keep talking about his huge standing ovation? Seriously.
IT SCORES HIM POLITICAL POINTS BY DOING SO. How many times do I have to say that?

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean most people agree. Stop projecting on the average voter Kath, they aren't disgusted with Trump for mentioning inauguration crowd size and standing ovations during a speech to the CIA. Every time you assume they care about the same shit that you do, to the same degree that you do, it causes you to understand Trump's actions less and less.

You are not Trump's target audience, just because he does something that pisses you off, doesn't automatically make it a dumb idea, you need to stop assuming the two always go hand in hand.
Kath wrote:It doesn't matter to you Trumpologists that he lies to the public so blatantly. He's got the bigliest ego. Believe me. It needs constant stroking and Melania isn't there to do it.
A politician with a big ego. Oh the humanity!
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:04 pm

apeman wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Trump on torture at today's press conference;

"Mattis will override because I'm giving him that power. ... I'm going to rely on him..., he's an expert, he's highly respected, he's the General's General.. I happen to feel that it does work ... but I am going with our leaders."


On Putin and Russia;

"I don't say good, bad, or indifferent, I don't know the gentleman, I hope we have a fantastic relationship, that's possible, but it's also possible that we wont, we will see what happens, I will be representing the American people, very, very strongly, very forcefully... if we have a great relationship with Russia... and go after ISIS together, I will consider that a good thing not a bad thing, how the relationship works out, I will have to tell you later, I've had many times where I thought I would get along with people, and now I don't like them at all."
Great stuff
It's the best stuff. Why wouldn't you say so? Many people have written about it. This is the best stuff... I dunno, maybe ever! It's big league bigly stuff. I don't want to hear any more of this half-measures... this waffling around.. I've got the biggest stuff ever. If you can't get on board with that, then you should probably leave, amirite? how bout it folks, should he leave?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Dand » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:05 pm

Kath wrote:He's definitely saying some good things when he takes a break from showing us how bigly his penis is.
Trump should recreate this video and settle it once and for all

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:09 pm

apeman wrote:Great stuff
I expect Cold War 2.0 to continue and to expand as it goes, it's a similar situation to Kennedy and Kruschev, the honeymoon between hypernationalist Hawks never lasts, they will find something to fall out over, Trump is buying into an arms race, Putin is all about an arms race, arms race FTW. That's not to say that there can't be coordination against ISIS, perhaps there will be, but coordination against ISIS does not a Cold War unmake, Cold Wars are all about Great Power competition and the nukes, there's plenty of room to walk and chew nukes at the same time.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:12 pm

Seriously Capps. Do you even hear what you say?

Whenever the president cries because his 'thing' wasn't the bigliest EVA, it scores him political points.

Beautiful..... because 50% of the country thinks he's delusional. You don't build trust by lying to people's faces and having temper tantrums over things that are of zero importance.

But, hey - I'm sure he's already the most popular president in the history of the world... amiright?
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