California Hate Thread

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Post by K@th » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:57 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
No need to jail anyone, just ban their manufacture. You can have a paper straw.
No need to ban anything. Banning will complicate things, because now we need the Beareu of which plastic products are allowed.

The free market is already working on this and making great progress. More and more innovation to solve this problem is happening.
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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:14 pm

Stop fucking with the water supply. Start there.

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Post by Montegriffo » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:20 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
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Those are worse for the environment, though.
How?

Paper requires trees, and the lumber industry is just as polluting as the hydrocarbon industries, not to mention it depletes forests over time. We should be working to limit our consumption of lumber resources while developing safer plastics that can more easily be recycled or biodegraded. The main problem with plastics is that the third world dumps plastic products in the oceans, creating giant islands of plastic garbage, and because of the BPA that companies put in there to make the plastics clear.

Also, if you really want to limit plastic usage, stop fucking with the water supply. People drink bottled water because they don't want to ingest toxic waste every day that comes out of your faucet. Get all that social engineering shit out of the water supply so that it's just fucking water again, and I think people will just transition to carrying around multi-use canteens and filling up at water fountains everywhere.

I don't know what it's like in England, but in much of the US, the water that comes out of the faucet tastes like shit compared to bottled water, and I suspect that's because of all the shit they put in there.

Environmentalists are fucking cancer. We need to develop better plastics (hopefully not based on oil in the future). We need nuclear power plants. Fuck you people.
The water here is pretty good. I never buy bottled water.
Paper requires trees. Without a paper industry no trees get planted.
Everyone dumps plastic not just the third world. Sure you can make straws that can be recycled but that does no good at all when they get thrown in the wrong bin. Just get rid of them, I don't accept that paper straws are worse. They biodegrade a lot quicker for a start.
What makes you think environmentalists don't want Nuclear power? It's the filthy fossil fuels that need to go.
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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:23 pm

Kath wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
No need to jail anyone, just ban their manufacture. You can have a paper straw.
No need to ban anything. Banning will complicate things, because now we need the Beareu of which plastic products are allowed.

The free market is already working on this and making great progress. More and more innovation to solve this problem is happening.
Pah, the free market is just doing what is most profitable. No one cares unless you legislate.
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Post by Fife » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:44 pm

15 Times Major Media Outlets Used a Statistic about Plastic Straws Based on Research by a 9-Year-Old
A number's popularity does not prove its accuracy.

Attempts to ban plastic straws—or indeed any plastic product—have as much to do with signaling your environmentalist bona fides as they do with actually cleaning up the oceans or saving the planet. So people pushing the claim have little incentive to investigate it. And the media have every incentive to hype the impact of a phenomenon they're covering.

Let this serve as a reminder: A statistic's popularity does not prove its accuracy.

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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by C-Mag » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:09 pm

.......... and the rest of us are rubes and hayseeds huh ?
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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:11 pm

What the fuck, guys. It's CURRENT YEAR. You can't just drink your diet soda with a fucking plastic straw. Is the soda even gluten free?

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Post by C-Mag » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:38 pm

San Francisco has a poop map............... what else needs to be said

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:33 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Kath wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:It is my fucking business. The planet doesn't belong to us we are just looking after it for future generations and we're doing a shit job of it.
Next we are coming for your styrofoam take away boxes and your non recyclable paper coffee cups.
All the supermarket plastic packaging needs to go too.
Get with the program or pay your fines, choice is yours.
Once we start jailing waiters and waitresses for bringing unsolicited straws to tables, society will be safe. Need to get these dangerous wait staff criminals off the streets before they bring too many straws to too many people.
No need to jail anyone, just ban their manufacture. You can have a paper straw.
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Re: California Hate Thread

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:57 am

Not sure why trying to clean up the planet is seen as a left v right issue but once you get accused of virtue signaling you know you have come up against the right's version of calling you a racist.
This is why you need legislation, otherwise everybody does just what the fuck they want and screw the long term consequences.
Maybe you should invest in reusable sippy cups if you haven't mastered drinking without a straw yet.
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