You put way too much emphasis on values, and not enough emphasis on results. If you value bad policy, that's a bad value. If you value good policy that's a good value, all values are not created equal.BjornP wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:51 amAnd first of all, you'd know that... how? Know alot about Denmark? I can reply "No" for you on that. Second of all, your reasoning is half-assed and illogical. Is the US constitution, their Bill of Rights, and all the legislation that guarentee American liberties just the will of the government? Meaning liberty is actually a government policy?Do Americans not have any values about liberty for themselves? Do they not vote for politicians who they think share those values? Or how about in Canada? Do the Canadian people have no values of their own, and do those values not inform what sort of politicians you vote for? Do only North American politicians have, hold, express and actively spread their values?
Thirdly, your specific guesswork about Denmark is ignorant, unfounded guesswork, because:
https://vbn.aau.dk/ws/portalfiles/porta ... e_2008.pdf
"Danes in America" aren't Danes unless they speak Danish, and are part of our culture on our land. Otherwise, they're just Americans with some Danish ancestry. I know that's how North Americans like to think of their "ethnicities", but "Danes" that don't even speak the language aren't Danes to actual Danes. That's a side-point, though.The groups to compare are Danish Americans to Danes in Denmark, Danes in America do better than Danes in Denmark.
Denmark has more to learn from America than America has to learn from Denmark. Hiding behind Danish values to defend bad government policy is just a terrible argument, step your game up Denmark.
I'm neither interested in the US "learning" anything from us, nor the other way around. If so-called "Danish"-Americans make more money, have lower average unemployment and whatever else, if they have a high standard of living that's great... got nothing to do with Denmark or the point I'm making, though. There are Danes who have a higher standard of living than the US average, and there are those who are lower. This ain't about equality of outcome, but equality of opportunity. And Danes are more content with how things are here than Americans are in the US and even Canada.
But I guess that's because their liberty is really US government policy and they don't really have any values about liberty, at all. In fact, they all probably want a monarchy.After all, nobody knows. An ancient eastern style monarchy. Where they bow and scrape veeeeery low to appease His Most Beneficient High Terrificness of the Empire of America and offer up their guns to him to turn it into a giant statue of their new gun-grabbing, transgender, feminist, tea-drinking and tofu-eating, God-Emperor.
If Danes do better in America then they do in Denmark, what does that say about Danish values?
