Real Olympic thread [[[[NO HOCKEY ALLOWED]]]]]

[StCapps]

Forsberg will be a Center, it's like Nylander, they start them on the wing in the NHL, but Forsberg is the 2C of the future, or perhaps the 1C and Johansen slides down.

Forsberg is a C/W, he can play all three positions, Kyle Turris is gonna be UFA, when Turris goes, Forsberg will replace him.

So now Forsberg gets credit for the future and PK gets no credit for the present. Smitty logic, quite odd.

[Smitty-48]

PK gets the credit he's due, top 4 d-man, PP specialist, but not Norris Trophy $9 million player.

Filip Forsberg is the future, I can't see Poile overpaying for Turris, Turris is gonna get stoopid money, 8 x 8, which is way too much for Turris and Poile knows.

[StCapps]

PK gets the credit he's due, top 4 d-man, PP specialist, but not Norris Trophy $9 million player.

I agree, but you go overboard in other posts with the shitting on him. He ain't as far from the $9 million Norris Trophy as you seem to think, not saying he's that close, but no need to embellish how far he has to go. You may not think your stance is embellishment, but it is from where I stand. PK is a no brainer top 10 in the NHL D-man at the moment, even if he is overpaid Fake Norris, be real.

[Smitty-48]

He's not top ten by my reckoning, there are ten who I would take ahead of PK, probably twenty actually, since PK comes with the baggage of the PK show, and if its at $9 million, I wouldn't even have him on my team, but assuming I could get him for under $6 million, he still wouldn't make my top ten, because the thing I want from a top pairing guy, is to be the steadiest guy on the team, I'm not paying big bucks for a run n' gun cowboy top pairing D, that would come back to haunt me when the chips were down, even on Nashville, PK isn't a 1D, I rank Josi and Ellis above PK.

[Smitty-48]

Like, I don't want Ryan McDonagh, he's not a good fit for the Leafs, none the less, if it came down to PK at 9 or McDonagh at 4.7, I'm taking McDonagh, rather have a steady eddie at half the price, and let Jake Gardiner rush the puck at half the price, two for the price of one.

[StCapps]

He's not top ten by my reckoning, there are ten who I would take ahead of PK, probably twenty actually, since PK comes with the baggage of the PK show, and if its at $9 million, I wouldn't even have him on my team, but assuming I could get him for under $6 million, he still wouldn't make my top ten, because the thing I want from a top pairing guy, is to be the steadiest guy on the team, I'm not paying big bucks for a run n' gun cowboy top pairing D, that would come back to haunt me when the chips were down, even on Nashville, PK isn't a 1D, I rank Josi and Ellis above PK.

PK is steadier than either guy you mention, especially Ellis. Your analysis of the Nashville D makes no sense, you need to watch them more. PK is not the run n' gun cowboy of the bunch, way off the mark. He went to team of run n' gun cowboys which is why he was able to simplify his game, because he didnt have to worry as much about being the run n' gun cowboy when Josi and Ellis can fill that roll, whether you give him credit for it or not. Ekholm and Subban are the steady eddie's of the Nashville top 4, and if you watched more Nashville games, you'd know this, so if that is what you claim you are looking for, than preferring Josi or Ellis to Subban makes no sense.

[Smitty-48]

The numbers don't lie, Josi logs more ice time and has significantly better possession stats across the board, Ryan Ellis plays a little less, but his numbers are better than PK's too.

On the eye test side, every time I see PK, which was just last week latest, he's running around playing the fool, or flopping around like a fish on the dock, there's no there there, PK doesn't scare me, he got rinsed by Kasperi Kapanen, which is par for the course.

[StCapps]

The numbers don't lie, Josi logs more ice time and has significantly better possession stats across the board, Ryan Ellis plays a little less, but his numbers are better than PK's too.

Transition game and offense, driving the possession, not play in their own end. Subban and Ekholm draw the tougher assignments defensively speaking. Subban and Ekholm shelter Josi and Ellis, not the other way around. Fife knows.

If you are wondering why Jake Gardiner's possession numbers seem high relative to his ability in his own zone, it's because possession numbers don't tell the whole story on that one. Cherry picker.

[Smitty-48]

Actually, Ekholm's numbers are better than PK's too, the "Norris Trophy Winning" PK is literally the 4D on Nashville.

They need to dump that contract before he ages out, and bring Dante Fabbro up sooner rather than later.

[StCapps]

Actually, Ekholm's numbers are better than PK's too, the "Norris Trophy Winning" PK is actually the 4D on Nashville.

Ekholm is better defensively, but all around isn't as good as PK. PK is the best hybrid of the bunch, which has allowed him to simplify his game and be much better defensively, shoring up what was the biggest hole in his game and turn into a bonafide strength, now he's one of the best defensive defensemen in the game, straight up. Josi and Ellis are the run n' cowboys, Ekholm and Subban are the steady shutdown guys.

Fans of Central Division teams know, so don't snow.