The Right and the Left need each other - debate

[Smitty-48]

The divine mandate from God was not so much religious, as it was procedural to the Treaty of Westphalia, because in order to rule Virginia in 1776, and certainly to invoke a mandate to make war, and to make George Washington a Commander-in-Chief therein, Westphalian sovereingty mandated the the divine right of a King, but what the Founders did, was democratize that mandate, initially to the White Male Landed Gentry only of course, but then there was a second revolution to further democratize that mandate to legal citizenship.

Which was then followed by Bolshieviks throwing it all away. Gotcha.

The Ameribolshies et al, simply deny there is such a mandate, essentially, that America has no inherent right to rule, and that Americans have no right to rule America therein, rather, that there is no God but man, and the whole world is one big Commune.

They deny the legitmacy of Westphalia, by denying the existence of the divine mandate therein, and in doing so, deny the basis of the nation state itself, in favour of a One World Socialist Revolution 2.0

[Okeefenokee]

The divine mandate from God was not so much religious, as it was procedural to the Treaty of Westphalia, because in order to rule Virginia in 1776, and certainly to invoke a mandate to make war, and to make George Washington a Commander-in-Chief therein, Westphalian sovereingty mandated the the divine right of a King, but what the Founders did, was democratize that mandate, initially to the White Male Landed Gentry only of course, but then there was a second revolution to further democratize that mandate to legal citizenship.

Which was then followed by Bolshieviks throwing it all away. Gotcha.

The Ameribolshies et al, simply deny there is such a mandate, essentially, that America has no inherent right to rule, and that Americans have no right to rule America therein, rather, that there is no God but man, and the whole world is one big Commune.

They deny the legitmacy of Westphalia, by denying the existence of the divine mandate therein, and in doing so, deny the basis of the nation state itself, in favour of a One World Socialist Revolution 2.0

A trip abroad to any of a number of other nations would cause this concept to evaporate. A national mandate of foreign mission work in Somalia would eliminate this idea that nations are irrelevant.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The divine mandate from God was not so much religious, as it was procedural to the Treaty of Westphalia, because in order to rule Virginia in 1776, and certainly to invoke a mandate to make war, and to make George Washington a Commander-in-Chief therein, Westphalian sovereingty mandated the the divine right of a King, but what the Founders did, was democratize that mandate, initially to the White Male Landed Gentry only of course, but then there was a second revolution to further democratize that mandate to legal citizenship.

Which was then followed by Bolshieviks throwing it all away. Gotcha.

The Ameribolshies simply deny there is such a mandate, essentially, that America has no inherent right to rule, and that Americans have no right to rule America therein, rather, that there is no God but man, and the whole world is one big Commune.

Well, ideally, it would all be a big commune. Sadly, we are too selfish for that.

I'm certainly not interested in nationalism - that contract has been broken and pissed on far too many times in my lifetime.

I do believe in individual rights of rule, I just recognize that I've never had any such rights.

There probably is no God. There's absolutely no reason to believe in one, other than tradition, and it's the most dangerous idea we've ever come up with, so nope. I'll await evidence.

It's a new world, Smitty. The Red Boogyman of your youth is long gone, along with most of your false idols. For better or worse, you are the old guard. Desperately you shall cling to your totems, as you wrestle with mortality, yet the end comets for all. Soon, all will be different and strange to you. I'll turn on Matlock for you, gramps.

[Smitty-48]

A trip abroad to any of a number of other nations would cause this concept to evaporate. A national mandate of foreign mission work in Somalia would eliminate this idea that nations are irrelevant.

Oh, they intend to govern, just not unilaterally by Westphalian sovereignty, but rather multilaterally through a network of international mandates which supercede nation states.

I call them Envirobolshies, because the doomsday which mandates this, is of course "Climate Change!", which is really just a euphemism for the One World Socialist Revolution 2.0

Economic Bolshevism was a failure, so they needed a new mandate, enter; the "Climate Scientists!"

[Martin Hash]

Well, ideally, it would all be a big commune.

There it is, dude: socialist.

p.s. Possibly Marxist?

[Martin Hash]

Oh, they intend to govern, just not unilaterally by Westphalian sovereignty, but rather multilaterally through a network of international mandates which supercede nation states. I call them Envirobolshies, because the doomsday which mandates this, is of course "Climate Change!", which is really just a euphemism for the One World Socialist Revolution 2.0. Economic Bolshevism was a failure, so they needed a new mandate, enter; the "Climate Scientists!"

Ba-boom.

[Smitty-48]

It's a new world, Smitty. The Red Boogyman of your youth is long gone, along with most of your false idols. For better or worse, you are the old guard. Desperately you shall cling to your totems, as you wrestle with mortality, yet the end comets for all. Soon, all will be different and strange to you. I'll turn on Matlock for you, gramps.

Oh, I'm not actually worried, I never said that the Champers Bolshies and Cultural Maoists were going to win, I'm bullish on nationalism, I think the backlash is going to make a comeback...

... although, might be a little hyper, could get a little dangerous, but hey, you know what the Chinese say; "与每一个危机来临的机会"

I'm bullish on America, as remaining the Leaders of the Free World, just not as the Left would like nor the liberals intended.

I have faith, that God and our right to be the kings of Virginia, will prevail in the end.

[Smitty-48]

See, Grumpy, I don't think it's my world that is going to come crashing down, so much as my world is going to come back with a vengeance, and it's actually you who is worried about that, not me.

[Speaker to Animals]

The divine mandate from God was not so much religious, as it was procedural to the Treaty of Westphalia, because in order to rule Virginia in 1776, and certainly to invoke a mandate to make war, and to make George Washington a Commander-in-Chief therein, Westphalian sovereingty mandated the the divine right of a King, but what the Founders did, was democratize that mandate, initially to the White Male Landed Gentry only of course, but then there was a second revolution to further democratize that mandate to legal citizenship.

Which was then followed by Bolshieviks throwing it all away. Gotcha.

The Ameribolshies et al, simply deny there is such a mandate, essentially, that America has no inherent right to rule, and that Americans have no right to rule America therein, rather, that there is no God but man, and the whole world is one big Commune.

They deny the legitmacy of Westphalia, by denying the existence of the divine mandate therein, and in doing so, deny the basis of the nation state itself, in favour of a One World Socialist Revolution 2.0

That's a very good summary of it.

[Montegriffo]

Which was then followed by Bolshieviks throwing it all away. Gotcha.

The Ameribolshies simply deny there is such a mandate, essentially, that America has no inherent right to rule, and that Americans have no right to rule America therein, rather, that there is no God but man, and the whole world is one big Commune.

Well, ideally, it would all be a big commune. Sadly, we are too selfish for that.

I'm certainly not interested in nationalism - that contract has been broken and pissed on far too many times in my lifetime.

I do believe in individual rights of rule, I just recognize that I've never had any such rights.

There probably is no God. There's absolutely no reason to believe in one, other than tradition, and it's the most dangerous idea we've ever come up with, so nope. I'll await evidence.

It's a new world, Smitty. The Red Boogyman of your youth is long gone, along with most of your false idols. For better or worse, you are the old guard. Desperately you shall cling to your totems, as you wrestle with mortality, yet the end comets for all. Soon, all will be different and strange to you. I'll turn on Matlock for you, gramps.

As a wise man once said,

Damn. Smitty is going off the deep end over there--a relic without a cause. It's like he's posting with an alt-right word salad generator.