Meanwhile in Ukraine
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In all reality, my side lost with Globalism. If a new Cold War breaks out, that will shake the box.
My side loses using democracy so it’s going to have to be something else.
My side loses using democracy so it’s going to have to be something else.
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just as a veteran infantryman, I can't help but the love the plucky Ukrainians
the Russians are filth, disgusting, they are both evil and pathetic
worst version of the Soviets ever
the Russians are filth, disgusting, they are both evil and pathetic
worst version of the Soviets ever
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The propaganda makes me kind of want to be in Azov Batallion and I know it can't be true.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:35 amexactlySpeaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:35 amI don't even really get the Russian propaganda strategy here at all. They are painting this Azov Battalion as if these guys are Spartan heroes valiantly fighting a successful resistance against overwhelming odds. Juxtapose that with the total incompetence on display by the Russian army and air force, and the savage brutality displayed by the same. Propaganda is supposed to paint yourself as the Spartans and the other guys as Xerxes. I just don't get it. Do they want everybody to go join Azov Battalion or something? Is it reverse psychology?
Or are they just so incredibly bad, and their war effort has failed so incredibly, that turning Azov Battalion into a heroic enemy they couldn't possibly defeat is better than admitting that they were incompetent barbarians. E.g. Lost Cause myth.
Polk Azov is one battalion in an army of 1.2 million
but the narrative is making them legendary, the 800 Spartans
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well I get why they are Fascists, it's an immunoreaction to the Bolshevism of the KremlinSpeaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:49 amThe propaganda makes me kind of want to be in Azov Batallion and I know it can't be true.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:35 amexactlySpeaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:35 amI don't even really get the Russian propaganda strategy here at all. They are painting this Azov Battalion as if these guys are Spartan heroes valiantly fighting a successful resistance against overwhelming odds. Juxtapose that with the total incompetence on display by the Russian army and air force, and the savage brutality displayed by the same. Propaganda is supposed to paint yourself as the Spartans and the other guys as Xerxes. I just don't get it. Do they want everybody to go join Azov Battalion or something? Is it reverse psychology?
Or are they just so incredibly bad, and their war effort has failed so incredibly, that turning Azov Battalion into a heroic enemy they couldn't possibly defeat is better than admitting that they were incompetent barbarians. E.g. Lost Cause myth.
Polk Azov is one battalion in an army of 1.2 million
but the narrative is making them legendary, the 800 Spartans
but I wouldn't fit in with those guys
I would want to be in Kyiv, defending President Zelenskiy and the government, that's the main effort
plus I wouldn't be able to keep up with those Azov kids, I'm only good for civil defense at my age
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The conflict is so clearly Fascism vs. Communism that it’s eerie.
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that's not trueMartin Hash wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:58 amThe conflict is so clearly Fascism vs. Communism that it’s eerie.
Azov is one battalion in an army of 1.2 million
the Ukrainians are not Fascist
the Russians are not Communist neither, Putin is the Czar
the Russian state is a cult of the personality now, it has no ideology other than Putin uber alles
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I call the Russians Bolsheviks,
but that doesn't mean Communist, in Russian Bolshevik means Majoritarian
but that doesn't mean Communist, in Russian Bolshevik means Majoritarian
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I wouldn't even call Putin a Stalinist, because Stalin was a devout Communist, he had an ideology
Putin has no ideology, he's just a Mob Boss
Putin has no ideology, he's just a Mob Boss
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It's really not at all. The fascists got totally marginalized after the coup. The Ukrainian government is very liberal.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:58 amThe conflict is so clearly Fascism vs. Communism that it’s eerie.
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exactly,Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:07 amIt's really not at all. The fascists got totally marginalized after the coup. The Ukrainian government is very liberal.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:58 amThe conflict is so clearly Fascism vs. Communism that it’s eerie.
Zelenskiy is the liberal who deposed Poroshenko
and Zelenskiy was a terrible peacetime leader,
and he is partially responsible because he downplayed the Russian threat
but now he has risen to the occasion,
soon as America offered to evacuate him and his family,
and Zelenskiy refused, and instead rallied at the head of his troops
you can't ask much more from a President in a country under invasion by a monstrous horde
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