Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

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Post by C-Mag » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:23 am

Exactly.

Survival is a balance scale. The more skills you have the fewer supplies you need, and vice versus. Many Old School survivalists were into skills. But they primarily focused on Woodcraft skills.

The skills and planning I'm talking about are beyond that.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:36 am

C-Mag wrote:Exactly.

Survival is a balance scale. The more skills you have the fewer supplies you need, and vice versus. Many Old School survivalists were into skills. But they primarily focused on Woodcraft skills.

The skills and planning I'm talking about are beyond that.
And that's getting into top tier skills. Leadership and communication.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:37 am

and strategery
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Post by Montegriffo » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:47 am

and spelling.
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Post by Ex-California » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:38 am

Montegriffo wrote:and spelling.
That's a joke
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:54 am

C-Mag wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
We Romans should really focus on self-actualization during this crisis.
I get you're point Doc. How do I explain my thoughts on this ?

The Prepping community is overly focused on STUFF. Gear reviews, stockpiles and caches. Name your site, it's filled with packing lists of Bug Out Bags, Firearms choices and the right tactical knife to buy. What's missing is how you build a community, the foundation of really thriving of in troubled times.

I can attest that it is quite important that people feel generally safe, belong to a group, have a sense of importance in the group and know their role.

If Preppers are really faced with a breakdown of government and society. What do they do past hunkering down and shooting at the 'Golden Horde' when it comes.

The main thing I see preppers fucking up on is their physical fitness.

Although, truth be told, if we encounter something like a One Second After scenario, the people who are overweight will have a huge advantage.

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Post by Ex-California » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:05 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
We Romans should really focus on self-actualization during this crisis.
I get you're point Doc. How do I explain my thoughts on this ?

The Prepping community is overly focused on STUFF. Gear reviews, stockpiles and caches. Name your site, it's filled with packing lists of Bug Out Bags, Firearms choices and the right tactical knife to buy. What's missing is how you build a community, the foundation of really thriving of in troubled times.

I can attest that it is quite important that people feel generally safe, belong to a group, have a sense of importance in the group and know their role.

If Preppers are really faced with a breakdown of government and society. What do they do past hunkering down and shooting at the 'Golden Horde' when it comes.

The main thing I see preppers fucking up on is their physical fitness.

Although, truth be told, if we encounter something like a One Second After scenario, the people who are overweight will have a huge advantage.
But won't the ability to live off of fat be offset by the general unhealthiness of overweight people?
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:06 am

California wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
I get you're point Doc. How do I explain my thoughts on this ?

The Prepping community is overly focused on STUFF. Gear reviews, stockpiles and caches. Name your site, it's filled with packing lists of Bug Out Bags, Firearms choices and the right tactical knife to buy. What's missing is how you build a community, the foundation of really thriving of in troubled times.

I can attest that it is quite important that people feel generally safe, belong to a group, have a sense of importance in the group and know their role.

If Preppers are really faced with a breakdown of government and society. What do they do past hunkering down and shooting at the 'Golden Horde' when it comes.

The main thing I see preppers fucking up on is their physical fitness.

Although, truth be told, if we encounter something like a One Second After scenario, the people who are overweight will have a huge advantage.
But won't the ability to live off of fat be offset by the general unhealthiness of overweight people?
What will they be doing other than just sitting there and waiting it out?

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Post by Ex-California » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:41 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
California wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

The main thing I see preppers fucking up on is their physical fitness.

Although, truth be told, if we encounter something like a One Second After scenario, the people who are overweight will have a huge advantage.
But won't the ability to live off of fat be offset by the general unhealthiness of overweight people?
What will they be doing other than just sitting there and waiting it out?
Dying of disease? The diabeetus?

I dunno, just seems counterintuitive to me, even though I know they will just be sitting there living off of fat stores. However the food addiction that comes with obesity seems like they'll be apt to kill their children for food over other people.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:34 am

California wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
California wrote: But won't the ability to live off of fat be offset by the general unhealthiness of overweight people?
What will they be doing other than just sitting there and waiting it out?
Dying of disease? The diabeetus?

I dunno, just seems counterintuitive to me, even though I know they will just be sitting there living off of fat stores. However the food addiction that comes with obesity seems like they'll be apt to kill their children for food over other people.

Eh. I think the type II diabetes thing is kind of overhyped. If people lose the fat, that stuff goes away. They are basically insulin resistant because they keep eating sugars and refined carbs all the time. It's insulting to conflate that with people who have real diabetes from birth. Those people are in big trouble in a situation like a collapse.

I kind of doubt that a total collapse would involve huge battles with cannibal armies and all that exciting stuff. That makes for good novels, but in real life, most people would be hunkered down and waiting the period out for government to be restored.

It's those initial days when the liberals in the cities are all dying that things might get scary for folks within a few days march of those places. But for most of us, the best course of action is to blockade ourselves inside and wait it out. Bug in; don't bug out unless you have to. The liberals will die out in a few weeks anyway.

The entire philosophy of "bugging out" is a death wish. If you have to bug out and hide in the forest or mountains, you are in big trouble. Safety is at home with all your supplies, weapons, and neighbors.

People who are a little overweight will have a huge advantage. In fact, that's why that body type is so common. For most of the paleolithic, people with those genetics were the master survivors.

Being physically unfit would be a death sentence if you have to bug out, however. In that case, you'd have to walk really far each day to get to safety, and negotiate some pretty difficult terrain to avoid the mobs of starving liberals.