The Right and the Left need each other - debate

[SuburbanFarmer]

The Bible didn't have much to do with the Founding Fathers neither, most of them being deists, what they were invoking, was not the Bible, rather a divine mandate, from God himself, directly to them, to be the kings of Virginia. Then US Grant and Billy Sherman took that mandate from them, and gave it to you.

Would that be 'me' - the radical bolshievist Left, American citizen, or Federal government? Your rhetoric is soaring off into Fantasyland again.

[Smitty-48]

You radical bolshevists don't believe in a divine mandate, thus is the FEBA of the Neo Civil War;

No God but man and his Commune v. God and our right to be the kings of Virginia.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You radical bolshevists don't believe in a divine mandate, thus is the FEBA of the Neo Civil War;

No God but man and his Commune v. God and our right to be the kings of Virginia.

Are those seriously the only 2 choices?

[Smitty-48]

You radical bolshevists don't believe in a divine mandate, thus is the FEBA of the Neo Civil War;

No God but man and his Commune v. God and our right to be the kings of Virginia.

Are those seriously the only 2 choices?

At the FEBA? Yep.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You radical bolshevists don't believe in a divine mandate, thus is the FEBA of the Neo Civil War;

No God but man and his Commune v. God and our right to be the kings of Virginia.

Are those seriously the only 2 choices?

At the FEBA? Yep.

Then I shall join the refugees, and tell both sides to fuck off. You're fighting a 21st century battle with 19th century ideas.

[Smitty-48]

The 21st century has no ideas, in case you haven't noticed. The paradox of postmodernism, is Seinfeld; it's a show about nothing.

The medium is the message, Marshall McLuhan.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The 21st century has no ideas, in case you haven't noticed. The paradox of postmodernism, is Seinfeld; it's a show about nothing.

The medium is the message, Marshall McLuhan.

You're proposing essentially a religious vs Communist paradigm. There's a hell of a lot of gray area between those two - even if you assume that they're directly opposed. You've passed into some kind of religious McCarthy phase that's quite unbecoming.

[Smitty-48]

The divine mandate from God was not so much religious, as it was procedural to the Treaty of Westphalia, because in order to rule Virginia in 1776, and certainly to invoke a mandate to make war, and to make George Washington a Commander-in-Chief therein, Westphalian sovereingty mandated the the divine right of a King, but what the Founders did, was democratize that mandate, initially to the White Male Landed Gentry only of course, but then there was a second revolution to further democratize that mandate to legal citizenship.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The divine mandate from God was not so much religious, as it was procedural to the Treaty of Westphalia, because in order to rule Virginia in 1776, and certainly to invoke a mandate to make war, and to make George Washington a Commander-in-Chief therein, Westphalian sovereingty mandated the the divine right of a King, but what the Founders did, was democratize that mandate, initially to the White Male Landed Gentry only of course, but then there was a second revolution to further democratize that mandate to legal citizenship.

Which was then followed by Bolshieviks throwing it all away. Gotcha.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The divine mandate from God was not so much religious, as it was procedural to the Treaty of Westphalia, because in order to rule Virginia in 1776, and certainly to invoke a mandate to make war, and to make George Washington a Commander-in-Chief therein, Westphalian sovereingty mandated the the divine right of a King, but what the Founders did, was democratize that mandate, initially to the White Male Landed Gentry only of course, but then there was a second revolution to further democratize that mandate to legal citizenship.

Which was then followed by Bolshieviks throwing it all away. And I'm one of them. Gotcha.