The Mess

[Smitty-48]

I bet your locally recruited ideologically unaware hit squads will kill a ton of innocent people, unpopular non socialist people.

No doubt, but innocent is not the issue, as it would not be prosecuting a trial, it would be prosecuting a war, I make no promises of a just war, it would be a counterrevolutionary war, a revanchist war, no judge nor jury but the sword, obviously an unprovoked war of aggression against the Cuban regime would be in violation national and international law and the laws of armed conflict, so at that point, anything goes, just get it done.

[StCapps]

What would be the right amount of capitalists that support the government enforced brand of capitalism... even when it is clearly doing more harm than good?

Lots of pro-capitalists that support the government enforced brand of capitalism too unfortunately, but government enforced capitalism in western society usually works out a lot better than government enforced socialism, though obviously there are exceptions. If you want to hang the crony capitalists from the lampposts, I can understand that sentiment as well.

Smitty is fine with some socialism, in the right situations, like a public option for health care on the federal level. The blood running through the streets thing is just chest thumping and daring the socialists to take things to the point where he feels justified in liquidating them. He knows they lack the courage of his convictions and he won't ever have to resort to that, don't take it as him hating all forms of socialism unquestioning simply because he fantasizes about giving the Bolshies their comeuppance.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

What would be the right amount of capitalists that support the government enforced brand of capitalism... even when it is clearly doing more harm than good?

Lots of pro-capitalists that support the government enforced brand of capitalism too unfortunately, but government enforced capitalism in western society usually works out a lot better than government enforced socialism, though obviously there are exceptions. If you want to hang the crony capitalists from the lampposts, I can understand that sentiment as well.

Respectable response to my needlessly glib and snarky one. :cheers:

[Smitty-48]

To SMitty - Socialism is THE ENEMY...

According to Smitty there can be no negotiation with socialism, no discussion... only war... to the bitter end, no quarter given.

Not so, negotiation, discussion, quarter, and more, are all within the walls of Her Majesty's Parliamentary Supremacy, but philosophically, if that were not the case... all bets are off.

There is parley, but there also comes a point where the socialists are no longer parleying in good faith, at which point, on their heads be it, Hanarchy said it himself "post fact world", well, in a post fact world, all arguments will be decided by the sword; God... our vindicator.

[DrYouth]

...but philosophically, if that were not the case... all bets are off.

This is what I'm getting at.

[Smitty-48]

...but philosophically, if that were not the case... all bets are off.

This is what I'm getting at.

Well, the problem with the socialists, is that they are not prepared to respect the parley, it's their way or the highway, and anything goes, if they can't win by parley, they take it to the street, we can't have our liberty anymore, because our liberty's offend them, we can't govern anything anymore, without a deliberately incited mob of socialists barring our way, parley is breaking down, they are not adhering to the deal, they are undermining Parliamentary Supremacy and very deliberately... so, on their heads be it.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

There is parley, but there also comes a point where the socialists are no longer parleying in good faith, at which point, on their heads be it, Hanarchy said it himself "post fact world", well, in a post fact world, all arguments will be decided by the sword; God... our vindicator.

I only hope I can fight well enough to deserve to have my head proudly displayed on a pike once the dust settles.

[StCapps]

Well, the problem with the socialists, is that they are not prepared to respect the parley, it's their way or the highway, and anything goes, if they can't win by parley, they take it to the street, we can't have our liberty anymore, because our liberty's offend them, we can't govern anything anymore, without a deliberately incited mob of socialists barring our way, parley is breaking down, they are not adhering to the deal, they are undermining Parliamentary Supremacy and very deliberately... so, on their heads be it.

Well yeah but they are easily dispersed and easily deterred if push comes to shove. They really aren't that big of threat to Parliamentary Supremacy, yet. If they ever go that far then I'm right there with you, but until we get anywhere near that day, I'm not that worried about it. They currently lack the courage of their convictions and you know it.

[Smitty-48]

Well, the problem with the socialists, is that they are not prepared to respect the parley, it's their way or the highway, and anything goes, if they can't win by parley, they take it to the street, we can't have our liberty anymore, because our liberty's offend them, we can't govern anything anymore, without a deliberately incited mob of socialists barring our way, parley is breaking down, they are not adhering to the deal, they are undermining Parliamentary Supremacy and very deliberately... so, on their heads be it.

Well yeah but they are easily dispersed and easy deterred. They really aren't that big of threat to Parliamentary Supremacy, yet, if they ever go that far then I'm right there with you, but until we get anywhere near that day, I'm not that worried about it. They currently lack the courage of their convictions and you know it.

The threat is not that parley will be overrun by an army, the threat is that as the socialists refuse to parley ever more, de facto if not de jure, we don't have a partner to parley with, and then, even if we wanted to hold our forces in check, we wouldn't be able to, and parley would be at an end, by default.

[DrYouth]

Well, the problem with the socialists, is that they are not prepared to respect the parley, it's their way or the highway, and anything goes, if they can't win by parley, they take it to the street, we can't have our liberty anymore, because our liberty's offend them, we can't govern anything anymore, without a deliberately incited mob of socialists barring our way, parley is breaking down, they are not adhering to the deal, they are undermining Parliamentary Supremacy and very deliberately... so, on their heads be it.

Where are these runaway socialists you speak of?