THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:42 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
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Smitty-48 wrote: I don't think Kath is always wrong, she's partisan, but even a partisan clock is right twice a day.
I get called a partisan hack from both teams. My left leaning friends think I'm freakishly to the right. My right leaning friends think I'm freakishly to the left.

I call it validation I'm truly in the center.

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Well, one assumes that the center would be partisan against the GOP, since they are hardly in the center, bunch o' Jesus juice huffing right wing kooks, yo.
What I'm saying is that it's pointless to bring out my right-wing tendencies on this forum. Clubby just calls me names - traitor, whatever. I fight here to shore up my right argument against the left. I take the other side on another forum.

When Trump does good things, I acknowledge it. I just think he's mostly been a blowhard for awhile, now. This fight with the media is a disaster. I agree with you, btw.... the media used to love him and they are sluts. They'll go where the most return is. He just needs to be charming. But, he's doubling down and the media will do nothing but bitch about him until he gets over himself. He can only tweet so much. FFS, even Fox News is focusing on this penis size issue. He needs peeps talking about policy. He's going to do good things.... all presidents do some good and some bad. He needs to focus on what good things he's got going on.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:43 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:It's all Animal Spirits; look good, feel good, shoot good. The economy is a self fulfilling prophecy, if people thinks it's gonna be good, it will get good, if they think it's gonna be bad, it will be bad, it's all psychological.
That's why the POTUS can have a big effect on the economy. The bully pulpit is key to morale and Trump plans to leverage the animal spirits to his advantage to help create a self-fulfilling MAGA. You don't need to be economic policy wonk as POTUS to boost the morale of the nation in regards to the economy, so Trump chooses not to become one. His salesman skills matter far more when it comes to effecting American morale than being a policy wonk, so it would be a waste of time to start focusing on wonkery over salesmanship now. Trump ignores what doesn't matter and focuses on what does, but because he's acting outside of the box, many people think he's crazy, but there is a method to the madness.
Indeed, and that was core to the original MAGA's success with the Gipper, but as per usual, it's not in the liberal's interests for America to succeed unless they are in charge, and they are in the majority overall, and even against the Gippper, I've never seen them go quite so hysterically negative as they have now, the Stop Harper!Factor is off the charts, and with the media in total alignment against MAGA, I could see it all being derailed by this relentlessly negative propgaganda campaign, Trump is going to need some early wins, or this could just degenerate into a quagmire.

Obama did jack shit for eight years, and he got a free ride from the media, but now the situation is reversed, there's no easy wins to be had here for Trump, he needs to score some goals.
Really? If MAGA fails it is because of liberals' bad vibes and the evil media. If MAGA succeeds it is because of how bigly Trump wins?

There is still the remote possibility that he just has bad godamn ideas.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:46 pm

The electorate doesn't care about policy details Kath. Trump should not focus on things people don't care about, that's not smart politics. Becoming a policy wonk won't make him a more effective president, so he ignores it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:46 pm

StCapps wrote:
Sure you do Kath, you aren't biased at all..... :roll:
I'm biased towards what, you think?

My biases are all self interest. Some of that is on the left and some is on the right. There's no need to fawn over either party. They fawn themselves, plenty.

In the time you've known me, I have said ZERO complimentary things about either Clinton. In that time, I've complimented Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Obama, Bill O'Reilly, Megyn Kelly, Anderson Cooper... a few others.

I have severally admonished Nancy Pelosi, Donna Brazil, Debbie W Schultz, Michelle Bachman and others.

My opinions don't form by looking at a color someone is wearing. I prefer to judge by actions, not colored laundry.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:47 pm

StCapps wrote:The electorate doesn't care about policy details Kath. Trump should not focus on things people don't care about, that's not smart politics.
Gotcha. Peeps voted for Trump because he promised his inauguration would be the biggliest audience ever.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:48 pm

You clearly were biased for the dems this whole time. I don't understand why you feel the need to disguise it.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:48 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:There is still the remote possibility that he just has bad godamn ideas.
Ideas Ischmeas, the Presidency is all about talking everything up from the bully pulpit, to get everybody fired up, which then translates into confidence, bears turn to bulls, everything else takes care of itself, which would be a disaster for the liberals, who obviously must do everything within that entrenched interest, to derail this MAGA train, lest they be in the poltical wilderness for the whole eight years.

Mission one, is Lame Duck, if MAGA works; mission fail.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:You clearly were biased for the dems this whole time. I don't understand why you feel the need to disguise it.
Disguise what? When I bitch about a lefty partisan hack being a partisan hack, do you call me a right wing hack? No you don't - you don't notice it because it goes against your core beliefs about my beliefs.

Believe me, my beliefs are very different from your beliefs about my beliefs. Bigly different.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:52 pm

Kath wrote:I'm biased towards what, you think?

My biases are all self interest. Some of that is on the left and some is on the right. There's no need to fawn over either party. They fawn themselves, plenty.

In the time you've known me, I have said ZERO complimentary things about either Clinton. In that time, I've complimented Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Obama, Bill O'Reilly, Megyn Kelly, Anderson Cooper... a few others.

I have severally admonished Nancy Pelosi, Donna Brazil, Debbie W Schultz, Michelle Bachman and others.

My opinions don't form by looking at a color someone is wearing. I prefer to judge by actions, not colored laundry.
You have a clear anti-Trumo bias. Just because you have an anti-Clinton bias doesn't mean you can't have an anti-Trump bias. Just because you are biased against Nancy Pelosi, Donna Brazile, Debbie W Schultz and Michelle Bachman as well doesn't mean you can't possibly be anti-Trump. Just because you said nice things about people from many different viewpoints, doesn't mean that you give Trump the credit he deserves because you complimented him a few times.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:54 pm

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote:The electorate doesn't care about policy details Kath. Trump should not focus on things people don't care about, that's not smart politics.
Gotcha. Peeps voted for Trump because he promised his inauguration would be the biggliest audience ever.
No they voted for him because he called the media out on their bullshit, like he is doing by countering their lies about audience size. So he is focusing on something that helps him while you suggest he focus on something that doesn't help him, and you are acting like you are giving him quality advice when you are out to sabotage him by suggesting such a foolish strategy.
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