Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:09 am

StCapps wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:07 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:05 am
Putin has just achieved one of his major Strategic Goals of this war.
1. No NATO Membership for Ukraine.

Let that sink in for all of you NPC's waiving Blue and Yellow flags with a black fist. I told you days ago that as Fucked up as the Russian military operations have been, Russia may stumble to victory.

While you declaring Russia's cause lost and dancing on Putins grave, Russia was suceeded Ugly.

There are no 'Good Guys' leading either side of this. 30 days ago this could have been averted.
We have all lost because leaders could not Negotiate.
that's not a success

Ukraine was never going to be let into NATO at any point

literally nothing has changed
Except ya know when we were openly saying that.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... IS20100702
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:11 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:09 am
StCapps wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:07 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:05 am
Putin has just achieved one of his major Strategic Goals of this war.
1. No NATO Membership for Ukraine.

Let that sink in for all of you NPC's waiving Blue and Yellow flags with a black fist. I told you days ago that as Fucked up as the Russian military operations have been, Russia may stumble to victory.

While you declaring Russia's cause lost and dancing on Putins grave, Russia was suceeded Ugly.

There are no 'Good Guys' leading either side of this. 30 days ago this could have been averted.
We have all lost because leaders could not Negotiate.
that's not a success

Ukraine was never going to be let into NATO at any point

literally nothing has changed
Except ya know when we were openly saying that.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... IS20100702
you've never heard of bluffing

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:11 am

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:05 am
Putin has just achieved one of his major Strategic Goals of this war.
1. No NATO Membership for Ukraine.

Let that sink in for all of you NPC's waiving Blue and Yellow flags with a black fist. I told you days ago that as Fucked up as the Russian military operations have been, Russia may stumble to victory.

While you declaring Russia's cause lost and dancing on Putins grave, Russia was suceeded Ugly.

There are no 'Good Guys' leading either side of this. 30 days ago this could have been averted.
We have all lost because leaders could not Negotiate.
I think the no NATO issue was just part of the excuse for them going into Ukraine. Putin wants the country, nothing less. I hope I’m wrong but that’s what I believe he wants. After he takes them he will move to the next nation on his list. With NATO appearing weak I think he would target the “big one” Poland. However Poland is a much, much tougher out compared to Ukraine.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:13 am

SilverEagle wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:03 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:51 am
SilverEagle wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:47 am
Volodymyr Zelenskyy, becoming the modern William Wallace.


If you can watch this scene without wanting to picking up your sword to fight, then you are a cuck (AKA a democrat lefty!)
I sympathize with the Ukrainians, I have Ukrainian ancestry. As I've said many times. It's hard not to cheer for them.
I think this is now a quagmire and I suppose it was from the get-go. If we would’ve showed strength before the Russians even cross the border this would have been over. However since the potato in office is so indecisive he gave Putin and Xi the opening they needed to punch the west in the mouth. Now the Ukrainian people are paying for it and after this my guess is that Putin will not stop and Xi will move on Taiwan. I still believe that will happen. So what are we do? Do we go toe to toe with Russia knowing that it’s going to end up as a two front war with China? The potato known as Brandon is to blame for all of this destruction in the world and what is yet still to come. A demented old circus monkey with his indecisiveness will result in a huge human loss.
Clearly the West is weak, but look how Putin bought Neutrality from NATO on this. While his army appears to suck in the field, he out maneuvered NATO.

He made Europe dependent upon his energy. Just got Nordstream 2 approved. Once he had that.
How could NATO get involved ?

The Biden Admin told us an attack was coming. OK, what did they do to stop this war. Nothing. Probably all they had to do was negotiate and assure no NATO membership. Why did the West not engage Putin. Because all they did was bluff, and then leave Ukraine holding the bag.

And the reaction to the West, and lack of ability to see what could happen is stunningly ignorant.
The sanctions are going to lead to the loss of the US dollar as the Reserve Currency. A new Asiatic Economic Alliance is being born.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:14 am

SilverEagle wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:11 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:05 am
Putin has just achieved one of his major Strategic Goals of this war.
1. No NATO Membership for Ukraine.

Let that sink in for all of you NPC's waiving Blue and Yellow flags with a black fist. I told you days ago that as Fucked up as the Russian military operations have been, Russia may stumble to victory.

While you declaring Russia's cause lost and dancing on Putins grave, Russia was suceeded Ugly.

There are no 'Good Guys' leading either side of this. 30 days ago this could have been averted.
We have all lost because leaders could not Negotiate.
I think the no NATO issue was just part of the excuse for them going into Ukraine. Putin wants the country, nothing less. I hope I’m wrong but that’s what I believe he wants. After he takes them he will move to the next nation on his list. With NATO appearing weak I think he would target the “big one” Poland. However Poland is a much, much tougher out compared to Ukraine.
That very well may be true. But we could have taken away the excuse.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:19 am

like if the mainstream media came out in favor of oxygen tomorrow

many of you would start holding your breath

sad
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:19 am

StCapps wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:07 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:05 am
Putin has just achieved one of his major Strategic Goals of this war.
1. No NATO Membership for Ukraine.

Let that sink in for all of you NPC's waiving Blue and Yellow flags with a black fist. I told you days ago that as Fucked up as the Russian military operations have been, Russia may stumble to victory.

While you declaring Russia's cause lost and dancing on Putins grave, Russia was suceeded Ugly.

There are no 'Good Guys' leading either side of this. 30 days ago this could have been averted.
We have all lost because leaders could not Negotiate.
that's not a success

Ukraine was never going to be let into NATO at any point

literally nothing has changed
Ukraine has now rendered NATO obsolete

we will simply turn Ukraine into the Israel of Eastern Europe

while reducing Russia into the first ever Fourth World shit hole,

the Russians will envy Zimbabwe
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:22 am

StCapps wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:07 am
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:05 am
Putin has just achieved one of his major Strategic Goals of this war.
1. No NATO Membership for Ukraine.

Let that sink in for all of you NPC's waiving Blue and Yellow flags with a black fist. I told you days ago that as Fucked up as the Russian military operations have been, Russia may stumble to victory.

While you declaring Russia's cause lost and dancing on Putins grave, Russia was suceeded Ugly.

There are no 'Good Guys' leading either side of this. 30 days ago this could have been averted.
We have all lost because leaders could not Negotiate.
that's not a success

Ukraine was never going to be let into NATO at any point

literally nothing has changed
They may say that in NPC land, but here in logic land we read sources and consider different viewpoints.
Here's some help from a week before the invasion by the Wall Street Journal.
Russia gave the U.S. a list of demands that they say must be met in order to avoid an all-out war with Ukraine. One of those demands is that Ukraine should not be allowed to join NATO
https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journa ... 4d306b0ef1
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:26 am

Hastur, what’s your opinion of MartyrMade’s Ukraine podcast? I don’t see any George Washington in that: just carpet-bagging.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:33 am

StCapps wrote:
Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:19 am
like if the mainstream media came out in favor of oxygen tomorrow

many of you would start holding your breath

sad
Antivax QAnon virtue signalling to themselves, who knew ?
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