The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:31 pm

de officiis wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Just because it seems to need repeating: There is a world of difference between laws based on race and almost any other category of law.

I can, if I am inclined, propose a law that says you can't go to Mosque, own a Koran, or speak Arabic. Odious and oppressive as it may be, it is still comprehensible, as a law, since you can choose to follow it or risk punishment.

I can not pass a law that concerns itself with being Arab, because that is a law that cannot be followed. Passing laws that cannot be followed is contrary to having a rule of law.

Laws that concern themselves with race are for uncivilized morons.
Part of the problem in the U.S. that needs to be understood and acknowledged is the serious possibility that the idea of reverse race discrimination, which since the death of Travon Martin is catching on with, and being openly advocated by groups like BLM, will lead to a legitimization of the idea that making race-based distinctions among groups is acceptable. The idea that minorities always enjoy free rein to discriminate against the white majority, and that somehow when you discriminate against a majority based on race, it isn't "discrimination," is wrong-headed, short-sighted, and is going to backfire in a severe way when enough people in that majority feel sufficiently threatened that they abandon the notion that ours is a race-neutral country. If the minorities in this country increasingly adopt the attitude that what MLK was talking about in the '60s is a dead letter, the white majority may not be far behind. After all, why defend a principle when the the intended beneficiaries of that principle reject it? When and if those attitudes change and become mainstream, life in this country will become even more difficult and fractious than it presently is. The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment is not going away soon, but there are plenty of ways that people can make one another miserable that don't involve state action. There are a lot of important questions that you can criticize StA for not answering, but it is not difficult to understand him as simply being in the vanguard of what might become a serious backlash if the militant anti-white attitudes emanating from the Left continue.
I agree with all of that.

Fortunately, as tribal as humans naturally are, race-based laws are one of those rare instances where sound law, ethics, reason, and enlightened self-interest align perfectly.

Seeing as this forum is not riddled with rabid SJW progressives calling for anti-white discrimination, arguing against that position here isn't needed. The folks here that want to argue against that position want to argue against a sort of leftist tulpa that can take on whatever vile form they imagine.
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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:36 pm

Weird, then, how it's perfectly constitutional to pass laws that discriminate against whites. How, in the case of Southern California, where whites are a minority demographic, if you have too many of them a school loses funding. Must be a kink in the system..

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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:39 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Weird, then, how it's perfectly constitutional to pass laws that discriminate against whites. How, in the case of Southern California, where whites are a minority demographic, if you have too many of them a school loses funding. Must be a kink in the system..
Is it?

The process of good government is always a struggle. If you think it is important to fight against race-based discrimination, I don't recommend doubling down on race based policies.

"But they're doing it!" is childish.

Grow up.
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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:44 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Weird, then, how it's perfectly constitutional to pass laws that discriminate against whites. How, in the case of Southern California, where whites are a minority demographic, if you have too many of them a school loses funding. Must be a kink in the system..
Is it?

The process of good government is always a struggle. If you think it is important to fight against race-based discrimination, I don't recommend doubling down on race based policies.

"But they're doing it!" is childish.

Grow up.



Okay. Let's unpack this bullshit for a moment.

If StA suggests that this open borders multi-racial immigration policy is a mistake, a mistake designed to destroy our demographic I might add, it's terrible because we can't have "laws based on race". But when it's pointed out that our state and federal laws are packed with statutes that discriminate on the basis of race, but are designed to discriminate against white people, it's perfectly fine. "Grow up", he says.

How about you grow up and have some intellectual fortitude to stand up for what you profess to believe in. If race-based laws are a problem with you, I wouldn't have known until I suggested we might return to the immigration policies pre-1964. You seemed perfectly happy with the race-based laws we currently live under.

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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by heydaralon » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:55 pm

Guys its halloween. No need to argue. Lets remember what this Holiday is about for a change. Im disappointed in both of you.
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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:58 pm

The Left needs an anti-Halloween parade!
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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:00 pm

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Okay. Let's unpack this bullshit for a moment.

If StA suggests that this open borders multi-racial immigration policy is a mistake, a mistake designed to destroy our demographic I might add, it's terrible because we can't have "laws based on race". But when it's pointed out that our state and federal laws are packed with statutes that discriminate on the basis of race, but are designed to discriminate against white people, it's perfectly fine. "Grow up", he says.

How about you grow up and have some intellectual fortitude to stand up for what you profess to believe in. If race-based laws are a problem with you, I wouldn't have known until I suggested we might return to the immigration policies pre-1964. You seemed perfectly happy with the race-based laws we currently live under.
I don't think laws that discriminate against white people are a good idea. I don't think that totally open borders are a good idea.

If we want to discuss either of those things, we would probably find less light between us.

If you want to pass laws that demand a particular racial majority, then you want unethical and unconstitutional laws.
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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by heydaralon » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:02 pm

Wheres your costume asshole? Wheres your funsized snickers? Keep talking about unethical laws and watch me tp your house like no ones business.


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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:03 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Okay. Let's unpack this bullshit for a moment.

If StA suggests that this open borders multi-racial immigration policy is a mistake, a mistake designed to destroy our demographic I might add, it's terrible because we can't have "laws based on race". But when it's pointed out that our state and federal laws are packed with statutes that discriminate on the basis of race, but are designed to discriminate against white people, it's perfectly fine. "Grow up", he says.

How about you grow up and have some intellectual fortitude to stand up for what you profess to believe in. If race-based laws are a problem with you, I wouldn't have known until I suggested we might return to the immigration policies pre-1964. You seemed perfectly happy with the race-based laws we currently live under.
I don't think laws that discriminate against white people are a good idea. I don't think that totally open borders are a good idea.

If we want to discuss either of those things, we would probably find less light between us.

If you want to pass laws that demand a particular racial majority, then you want unethical and unconstitutional laws.

But you only criticize, speak out against, and actively campaign against those laws when they benefit whites. When they harm us, you remained silent until called out on it.

It seems to me that -- just maybe -- you really don't have a problem with "race-based laws" at all but, rather, you have a problem with any laws that benefit whites, while laws that harm whites and benefit other races are just fine with you until you are confronted with the contradiction between that and your stated principle. If that truly is your guiding principle, you don't seem particularly motivated about stopping race-based laws in general. You only care about hypothetical race-based laws that benefit whites, even though no such laws exist right now.
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Re: The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:04 pm

heydaralon wrote:Wheres your costume asshole? Wheres your funsized snickers? Keep talking about unethical laws and watch me tp your house like no ones business.


Fucking Jack Skellington ass motherfucker
I've been hiding from evil spirits and reverencing Samhain all night.

It doesn't totally fill up my schedule though.
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