Hurricane Harvey

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:27 pm

I bet monty thinks the path to salvation under Christianity is good deeds.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:30 pm

James 2:14-26

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:45 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:James 2:14-26
Not the same thing. Faith without deeds is a different thing than deeds without faith.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:59 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:James 2:14-26
Not the same thing. Faith without deeds is a different thing than deeds without faith.
Faith without works is dead, but also works without faith is useless.

The point is that they go together. Sola fide is bad news. The presumption of salvation I think is very dangerous. You don't get to decide your salvation. But to claim you are saved by faith alone is to say you will be saved simply because you believe you will be saved.

Neither can you simply buy your way into salvation through works or guarantee your salvation simply by believing you will be saved. You must therefore "work out your salvation with fear and trembling."

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Re: Hurricane Harvey

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 am

Nukedog wrote:Not sure where people are getting the idea God is some sort of parental guardian that's going to hold your hand.
Evangelicals.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:28 am

Some of them do do that. I think it's border line heretical.

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Post by katarn » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:05 pm

Nukedog wrote:Some of them do do that. I think it's border line heretical.
If they do, it really is.
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And in my soul am free,
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Re: Hurricane Harvey

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:16 pm

The Rapture certainly is imo. Even some Evangelicals will say as much. There is actually an interesting history with American Christianity and the scofield bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible

From what I've heard this is where much of it started from.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:28 pm

Stay classy, Houston.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ?CMP=fb_gu
But while everything has changed for this family, they are still expected to pay for their abandoned home.

“Our landlords say we have to pay rent and late fees and every day it is going up,” Fuentes said. “We are paying rent for somewhere we can’t live in. They said ‘you aren’t the only ones in this situation’, but what are we supposed to do? We don’t have any money. We don’t have anything.”
Seriously, what kind of fucking balls does that take?
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Re: Hurricane Harvey

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:32 pm

Rent seekers gotta eat too nibba