Are we still influenced by nazi propaganda?

User avatar
Otern
Posts: 720
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:13 am

Re: Are we still influenced by nazi propaganda?

Post by Otern »

Montegriffo wrote:Nazi propaganda still going strong...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... itz-museum
Actually, the Poles have every right and reason to be pissed off. I don't agree with the law, just as I don't agree with Holocaust denial being a criminal offense. But this law comes for a reason.

Language matters. This law is coming, because people, especially German media, are now referring to the extermination camps set up by the nazis in Poland as "Polish death camps". Not as "nazi death camps in occupied Poland", or even "death camps in Poland". "Polish death camps."

The same extermination camps the nazis used in their genocide on the Poles.
User avatar
Otern
Posts: 720
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:13 am

Re: Are we still influenced by nazi propaganda?

Post by Otern »

BjornP wrote:I think the Nazi propaganda that became most accepted was the notion that the Versailles treaty was unfair, and that it's "harshness" led to WW2.
True. What helped Germany a lot after WW2, was the occupation. An occupied post WW1 Germany would probably have fared better, as it wouldn't give the Freikorps a chance to grow.
User avatar
Hastur
Posts: 5297
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 am
Location: suiþiuþu

Re: Are we still influenced by nazi propaganda?

Post by Hastur »

Otern wrote:
BjornP wrote:I think the Nazi propaganda that became most accepted was the notion that the Versailles treaty was unfair, and that it's "harshness" led to WW2.
True. What helped Germany a lot after WW2, was the occupation. An occupied post WW1 Germany would probably have fared better, as it wouldn't give the Freikorps a chance to grow.
Yup. Just look at the terms of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. If that's what Germany considered a reasonable price for losing a war the Versailles treaty was a slap on the wrist in comparison.
Image

An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna

Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck
User avatar
Otern
Posts: 720
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:13 am

Re: Are we still influenced by nazi propaganda?

Post by Otern »

GloryofGreece wrote:The side that was guilty for causing WWI is a contested issue. There is countless scholarship pointing to the British or the Russians being to blamed vs. Germany or Austria etc. etc. Germany's militarism certainly played a part but then so did Russia imperialism and Britain's economic and naval ambitions.
Every major power in Europe was partly guilty of the build up to WW1. But as for who started it? Austria-Hungary and Germany, no doubt. Russia had enough to deal with themselves, they were not ready for a war, and they knew it.
User avatar
C-Mag
Posts: 28382
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:48 pm

Re: Are we still influenced by nazi propaganda?

Post by C-Mag »

Otern wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:Nazi propaganda still going strong...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... itz-museum
Actually, the Poles have every right and reason to be pissed off. I don't agree with the law, just as I don't agree with Holocaust denial being a criminal offense. But this law comes for a reason.

Language matters. This law is coming, because people, especially German media, are now referring to the extermination camps set up by the nazis in Poland as "Polish death camps". Not as "nazi death camps in occupied Poland", or even "death camps in Poland". "Polish death camps."

The same extermination camps the nazis used in their genocide on the Poles.
+1

Language Matters a lot.
You have to have a common language to have a unified nation. People have to be able to communicate.
PLATA O PLOMO


Image


Don't fear authority, Fear Obedience
User avatar
Otern
Posts: 720
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:13 am

Re: Are we still influenced by nazi propaganda?

Post by Otern »

C-Mag wrote: +1

Language Matters a lot.
You have to have a common language to have a unified nation. People have to be able to communicate.
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?c ... nd%3B%2Cc0

Poland definitely have a good reason to be pissed off.