New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by BjornP » Wed May 02, 2018 12:26 pm

Kath wrote:Truly a first world problem.

People are lonely because they choose to be.
Excatly.

And American black people who live in a "hood culture", do that because they choose so. The opiod crisis is people choosing to dispense and consuming more opiods. Victimhood culture exists because people choose to see most interactions as an interaction between an aggressor and victim. Poor public education exists because someone chose and still choose the system to be that way. Every single problem in your society exists because someone/some group chose it should be so.

Why choose those things, then?

Some degree of curiousity about why people choose to do something that is either self-destructive or to society at large, is probably healthy, no? If more people are lonely, that's entirely on them to fix, correct. But why would more people choose it in the first place? What brought on the change? While the US isn't Japan, they have this in an extreme degree in Japan. Men and women don't even dare date, and foreswear sex and reproduction. A happy people is, ultimatively, a more productive and wealth-generating one. Ignore DB's claims of victimhood, and don't see it as a sympathy issue. See it as an economic one. Does society benefit more from having more people socially capable of working well together, or does it benefit from people who isolate themselves completely from social interaction, gazing into their own navels?
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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by DrYouth » Wed May 02, 2018 12:30 pm

DBTrek wrote:You don’t feel at all like a big tent revival preacher warning the masses against the ills of the devil’s radio, do you?

That techno-wizardry, a’comin from Satan himself to waylay our good Christian children. Repent, America, put down your sinful technology before it destroys you!

Right on. A house full of isolated kids in a community of repressed and reclusive farmers was way better off than we are today - because they were safe from Lucifer’s iPhone.

I get it. I just think it’s as ridiculous today as it was when radio, TV, and later, computers were to blame for social ills. But something has to be blamed, right? Blame is always the step that comes right after declaring ourselves victims.
I'm not a technophobe at all.

I'm not anti-iphone, I'm not anti-internet...

But I am pro-community.

And I see over and over that we have lost community.
We tend to not know our neighbours.
Our kids have very little connection outside of school with their classmates.
Parents in the school tend to have very little trust in teachers or other parents... so how do we expect the kids to trust one another.
My kids socialize mostly over their iphones.... they have way less face to face time with their peers than we used to....
If when they want to - WE have to drive them and pick them up... because of the suburban fact of the matter and the fact that their school is too far away... so the kids they know are too far away, even to bike to.
I guess we could have made different choices as parents as to where we chose to live.... but you have to actively think about these things today... in the past it just wasn't like this.

Parenting was easier way back then... because kids could trust their communities... and you didn't have to pull them off technology all the time.
Most parents give up on it after a while and surrender to the techo-sitter.
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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 02, 2018 12:43 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: You are a crazy person.
You see the same thing everywhere.
Multiculturalism may very well be bad for society.
That doesn't mean its the leading cause of loneliness.

Technology is the leading cause of people getting disconnected from EVERYONE.

You can be a displaced, new white minority that doesn't mean you are lonely.

I am literally just presenting the results of actual research. The guy who found this out was trying to support multiculturalism, and the results shocked him to his core, to the point where he sat on the results for about a decade before choosing to publish.
You are literally crazy.

Loneliness is all about one's personally interactions. That's like 50 people. The problems of multiculturalism is a macroproblem. Loneliness is a microproblem.

Unless you are 1% minority in some place, the demographics have shit to do with being lonely.

Blaming multiculturalism for being a lonely... well that's something a lonely person would say... but changing the macrodemographic of the country would do nothing to make them less lonely.

Social scientific research literally identifies multiculturalism as the driving cause of low-trust devolution of our society as well as alienation. The only crazy person here is you who rejects science because it conflicts with your ideology.

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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by jediuser598 » Wed May 02, 2018 12:44 pm

Someone complaining about millennials. Like that ever happens. :roll:

One would think older generations would get tired of shitting on us, you're the ones who offered the participation trophies and then made us into villains for getting them. What were we, 8 at the time? Talk about some bullshit. When your generations are dead and gone, the world will be a better place for it. At least we won't have to hear it all the time about how we're such a failed generation.

Hell, it's even a meme now, "millennials ruined <insert whatever>."
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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by DrYouth » Wed May 02, 2018 1:10 pm

jediuser598 wrote:One would think older generations would get tired of shitting on us, you're the ones who offered the participation trophies and then made us into villains for getting them.
Who's complaining about millennials?
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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by DBTrek » Wed May 02, 2018 1:11 pm

DrYouth wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:One would think older generations would get tired of shitting on us, you're the ones who offered the participation trophies and then made us into villains for getting them.
Who's complaining about millennials?
Not sure, but here they are on display doing what they do best - complaining.
We’re all utterly shocked, I’m sure.
:lol:

Maybe Jedi is just epically lonely.
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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by DrYouth » Wed May 02, 2018 1:15 pm

DBTrek wrote:
DrYouth wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:One would think older generations would get tired of shitting on us, you're the ones who offered the participation trophies and then made us into villains for getting them.
Who's complaining about millennials?
Not sure, but here they are on display doing what they do best - complaining.
We’re all utterly shocked, I’m sure.
:lol:

Maybe Jedi is just epically lonely.
Well it would explain a lot...

How does most of what happens in this place make any sense otherwise?
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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by Ph64 » Wed May 02, 2018 1:21 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

I am literally just presenting the results of actual research. The guy who found this out was trying to support multiculturalism, and the results shocked him to his core, to the point where he sat on the results for about a decade before choosing to publish.
You are literally crazy.

Loneliness is all about one's personally interactions. That's like 50 people. The problems of multiculturalism is a macroproblem. Loneliness is a microproblem.

Unless you are 1% minority in some place, the demographics have shit to do with being lonely.

Blaming multiculturalism for being a lonely... well that's something a lonely person would say... but changing the macrodemographic of the country would do nothing to make them less lonely.

Social scientific research literally identifies multiculturalism as the driving cause of low-trust devolution of our society as well as alienation. The only crazy person here is you who rejects science because it conflicts with your ideology.
I remember the study StA is referencing. IIRC the researcher was left-leaning and tried to spin the data in a positive light, but the data was overwhelmingly against multiculturalism. The study took data from everywhere from "small town USA" (like a pop. 5000 town in predominantly white Montana) to large multicultural cities like L.A., and there was far higher trust in uni-cultural locations. In the cities the trust of "other group/tribe" members was low - but interestingly even among "in-group/tribe" the trust level was far lower than in more uni-cultural locations. Like being white you might not trust your black/Hispanic neighbors down the street, even in a predominantly white neighborhood, but you also don't trust your white neighbors very much either, or at least to a far lesser extent than small-town USA does.

And one can easily show that lack of trust leads to more disconnection, lonliness, etc.

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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by Okeefenokee » Wed May 02, 2018 1:26 pm

Social diversity correlates with lower social cohesion while social homogeneity tracks with high social cohesion.

I love watching the party of science recoil from every study that contradicts their ideology.
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Re: New Cigna Study Reveals Loneliness at Epidemic Levels in America

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed May 02, 2018 1:31 pm

Kath wrote:Truly a first world problem.

People are lonely because they choose to be.
:think: :naughty: :snooty: