FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by C-Mag » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:15 pm

JohnDonne wrote:One can scarcely imagine a group, racial or political, that hasn’t been accused of declaring war on traditional Americans on this forum in the last two years. Maybe you’re all just starting to lose your minds?

Uh.............. this is not some wild 'accusation' this is literally their words. I cited them in the OP.

So, maybe we're not losing our minds. Check the mirror.
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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:30 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:A bunch of malcontents complaining about the onerous oppression of pluralistic democracy... delusional?

Noooooooooooooo. :roll:
The oscillations between the groups of malcontents are divergent.
Maybe.

But I expect the real deal is that it is just easier to come into contact with opinions that are the furthest from your own. The poles aren't actually getting further apart... we are just becoming more acutely aware of the distance.

Innernette is still pretty new. I am confident we can all grow the fuck up and continue the project pluralistic democracy with people whose ideas annoy us once we get used to hearing those ideas without completely freaking out.

May the bloodless war of all against all continue forever.
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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by BjornP » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:31 pm

C-Mag wrote:
JohnDonne wrote:One can scarcely imagine a group, racial or political, that hasn’t been accused of declaring war on traditional Americans on this forum in the last two years. Maybe you’re all just starting to lose your minds?

Uh.............. this is not some wild 'accusation' this is literally their words. I cited them in the OP.

So, maybe we're not losing our minds. Check the mirror.
You cited two - two - authors getting column space in a third guy's magazine calling for a one-party state. Do those two + plus the magazine owner represent all of The Left (capital letters, of course) in the US, since you believe everyone to the left of...whatever qualifies as not "The" left... just declared war on you?
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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:37 pm

When do we start, fam?


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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by BjornP » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:48 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:When do we start, fam?
If you're genuinely under attack, you ought to have every right to defend yourself by lethal means, right? So... if you seriously, truly, in your mind and in your heart, genuinely believe that you're at "war", then you of course should start organizing into militias right now and planning attacks at your earliest convenience. You know, as pre-emptive defense.

That is, if you truly believe what you're saying about being at "war". I've been hearing talk of impending civil war on these pages for eight years in some form or another. Somehow none of you have started killing the other side, yet. Either get to it, already, or stop mouthing off about it like a drunk with no teeth.
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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by nmoore63 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:52 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:A bunch of malcontents complaining about the onerous oppression of pluralistic democracy... delusional?

Noooooooooooooo. :roll:
The oscillations between the groups of malcontents are divergent.
Maybe.

But I expect the real deal is that it is just easier to come into contact with opinions that are the furthest from your own. The poles aren't actually getting further apart... we are just becoming more acutely aware of the distance.

Innernette is still pretty new. I am confident we can all grow the fuck up and continue the project pluralistic democracy with people whose ideas annoy us once we get used to hearing those ideas without completely freaking out.

May the bloodless war of all against all continue forever.
-not true. We are interacting with difference folks less.
- the internet is new. Just like every other communications revolution, after we kill a bunch of each other 30 years war style, we will reach a new Westphalia understanding.

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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by Ph64 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:43 pm

nmoore63 wrote: -not true. We are interacting with difference folks less.
- the internet is new. Just like every other communications revolution, after we kill a bunch of each other 30 years war style, we will reach a new Westphalia understanding.
We're communicating more, with less diversity of thought because we seek out those who we agree with and drive away those we don't, with people all across the country and even the world in some cases... while locked up in our homes/cubes not daring to talk to our neighbors because one wrong comment will get you ostracized (or brought up on harassment charges at work) for having a different opinion.

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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by BjornP » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:53 pm

Ph64 wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: -not true. We are interacting with difference folks less.
- the internet is new. Just like every other communications revolution, after we kill a bunch of each other 30 years war style, we will reach a new Westphalia understanding.
We're communicating more, with less diversity of thought because we seek out those who we agree with and drive away those we don't, with people all across the country and even the world in some cases... while locked up in our homes/cubes not daring to talk to our neighbors because one wrong comment will get you ostracized (or brought up on harassment charges at work) for having a different opinion.
You might, well... not enjoy reading this, but it has a down to earth - yet probably hard to solve - explanation for the rise of media bubbles as relates to the rise of the internet:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ast-215048
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Re: FLASH: The Left has Openly Declared War on you Red State Neanderthals

Post by nmoore63 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:58 pm

BjornP wrote:
Ph64 wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: -not true. We are interacting with difference folks less.
- the internet is new. Just like every other communications revolution, after we kill a bunch of each other 30 years war style, we will reach a new Westphalia understanding.
We're communicating more, with less diversity of thought because we seek out those who we agree with and drive away those we don't, with people all across the country and even the world in some cases... while locked up in our homes/cubes not daring to talk to our neighbors because one wrong comment will get you ostracized (or brought up on harassment charges at work) for having a different opinion.
You might, well... not enjoy reading this, but it has a down to earth - yet probably hard to solve - explanation for the rise of media bubbles as relates to the rise of the internet:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ast-215048
Its solve able.
It will just take decades. And likely many bodies.
The same challenge came with the printing press.
I am imagine something similiar happened during the transition from pre-history to history. Though less... documented... as it were.