The future of the US is fucked if people are this dumb...

[C-Mag]

Hey, Dr Youth, you should be sending your American friends some good scripts for Christmas to help us get through the Trumpocolypse.

[Speaker to Animals]

I need modofinil.

Maybe some adderall.

Definitely some HGH for the depression issues.

[heydaralon]

If you can’t point out the SJW in the room, you *are* the SJW.

I love Rounders.

[GloryofGreece]

Weren't there sustained therapeutic successes before the transition to drug therapy alone, though? I was under the impression that psychoanalysis sort of worked, depending upon who was doing it.

It did and does. There is good evidence for the success of psychotherapy. The specific subtypes of psychotherapy seem to differ very little. The qualities of the therapist and the alliance with the patient are of key importance.

A few weeks ago, I mentioned a theory from the 1970s that I thought you would be interested in:

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I just started listening the audiobook that Julian Jaynes wrote to argue the hypothesis. As an aside, this is probably the most well-written nonfiction book I have ever read or listened to. This guy could have been a novelist or playwright. The book is beautiful. Anyway, in the beginning, he goes a little into the trouble with behaviorism in an interesting take-down. You might actually be interested in this book. The podcast episodes I listed above give a decent synopsis, but the book really is something worth reading on its own.

I've heard of this theory before.

Consciousness has definitely been evolving. I very much enjoy the work of Jeremy Rifkin here who explores the evolution of human consciousness over the course of human civilization and sees it as coevolving with technologies of communication such as writing, the printing press and modern telecommunication and information technology. He refers to the author you mention as well.

The mind is certainly bicameral - the differences between the right and left hemisphere are being understood in much greater detail - the work of Iain McGilchrist is definitely worth looking at if you are interested. But this is also an oversimplification....
Under situations of great stress any of us can experience communication with what seem to be other entities - "The Third Man Factor" by John Geiger explores these experiences in ship wreck survivors and adventurers who get isolated... this is the same process that gets elaborated in Dissociative Identity disorder and certain forms of Schizophrenia. We all have aspects of the self that come into conflict with one another, which is why we say things like "I'm torn" and "I was beside myself".

What blew my mind was the realization that, in the Illiad, there is no description of a conscious person. It speaks of arms and legs as if the human body is an automaton. The characters have a sense of a "me" but not an "I". On the other hand, you can see a depiction of a conscious being, presumably from the perspective of the unconsciousness of a bicameral poet, in Odysseus. If there is truth to this hypothesis, conscious humans' ability to deceive must have appeared uncanny to bicameral humans.

Thanks for the link above about consciousness. That discussion was great. and Im only through part 1. Its much more interesting than most the shit Sam Harris talks about.

[The Conservative]

I need modofinil.

Maybe some adderall.

Definitely some HGH for the depression issues.

Sad thing is that my narco meds cost me 5.50 to get, but my adderal costs me $50 for a 30 day script.

[SuburbanFarmer]

If you can’t point out the SJW in the room, you *are* the SJW.

I love Rounders.

Definitely in my top 5.

[heydaralon]

I love Rounders.

Definitely in my top 5.

I've often wondered if professional gamblers can actually read people's faces and keep up with the deck to figure out what people have in their hand. I wish I could do that.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I love Rounders.

Definitely in my top 5.

I've often wondered if professional gamblers can actually read people's faces and keep up with the deck to figure out what people have in their hand. I wish I could do that.

That’s more or less how poker is played.

Right around the time that movie came out, and an amateur won the WSOP for the first time, the skill level of the game went up dramatically. Before that, it was free money every weekend.

[Speaker to Animals]

It did and does. There is good evidence for the success of psychotherapy. The specific subtypes of psychotherapy seem to differ very little. The qualities of the therapist and the alliance with the patient are of key importance.



I've heard of this theory before.

Consciousness has definitely been evolving. I very much enjoy the work of Jeremy Rifkin here who explores the evolution of human consciousness over the course of human civilization and sees it as coevolving with technologies of communication such as writing, the printing press and modern telecommunication and information technology. He refers to the author you mention as well.

The mind is certainly bicameral - the differences between the right and left hemisphere are being understood in much greater detail - the work of Iain McGilchrist is definitely worth looking at if you are interested. But this is also an oversimplification....
Under situations of great stress any of us can experience communication with what seem to be other entities - "The Third Man Factor" by John Geiger explores these experiences in ship wreck survivors and adventurers who get isolated... this is the same process that gets elaborated in Dissociative Identity disorder and certain forms of Schizophrenia. We all have aspects of the self that come into conflict with one another, which is why we say things like "I'm torn" and "I was beside myself".

What blew my mind was the realization that, in the Illiad, there is no description of a conscious person. It speaks of arms and legs as if the human body is an automaton. The characters have a sense of a "me" but not an "I". On the other hand, you can see a depiction of a conscious being, presumably from the perspective of the unconsciousness of a bicameral poet, in Odysseus. If there is truth to this hypothesis, conscious humans' ability to deceive must have appeared uncanny to bicameral humans.

Thanks for the link above about consciousness. That discussion was great. and Im only through part 1. Its much more interesting than most the shit Sam Harris talks about.

The second episode is far more interesting.

I am in the book he wrote now. He was a very skilled writer. If you like those podcast episodes, the book he published on this is probably worth your time.

I might check out some of DrY's recommendations next.

[heydaralon]

Definitely in my top 5.

I've often wondered if professional gamblers can actually read people's faces and keep up with the deck to figure out what people have in their hand. I wish I could do that.

That’s more or less how poker is played.

Right around the time that movie came out, and an amateur won the WSOP for the first time, the skill level of the game went up dramatically. Before that, it was free money every weekend.

I don't understand how they can actually tell what cards you have though just based on body language. That's some telepathy shit. Are there actually poker players as good as the ones in the film? How embellished were Damon and Norton's techniques?