The Troubles

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Montegriffo wrote:
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Most people in Ulster do not.

Why didn't that matter to you in Rhodesia?
Because most people there wanted independance.

In the Falklands most wanted to stay under our control, same with Gibraltar.

Channel Islands prefer to be British than French.

If these regions change their minds we'll probably reconsider.

So there is some hope Shetland and Orknøyene will come back home to Norway. Think I'm going over there for some holidays someday, and just be real nice to everyone, and hope for the best.
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Otern wrote:So there is some hope Shetland and Orknøyene will come back home to Norway. Think I'm going over there for some holidays someday, and just be real nice to everyone, and hope for the best.
You really want to add Scots to Norway? Don't you have enough delusional Leftards in Norway already? I mean, if it was New Hampshire that you were adding to Norway, that might help, but why you would want to load up on Scottish Bolshies is beyond me.
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Smitty-48 wrote:
Otern wrote:So there is some hope Shetland and Orknøyene will come back home to Norway. Think I'm going over there for some holidays someday, and just be real nice to everyone, and hope for the best.
You really want to add Scots to Norway? Don't you have enough delusional Leftards in Norway already? I mean, if it was New Hampshire that you were adding to Norway, that might help, but why you would want to load up on Scottish Bolshies is beyond me.
The Scots aren't that bad really. I'm probably one of those "delusional Leftards" by your definition anyway. And it's not that many of them anyway, they would assimilate quickly and speak Norwegian and hunt whales in no time.
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Vinland for the Nords!
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Montegriffo wrote:
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Montegriffo wrote:Compromise.
noun
noun: compromise; plural noun: compromises

1.
an agreement or settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.
"eventually they reached a compromise"
synonyms: agreement, understanding, settlement, terms, accommodation;
That's how it works on the upper levels, true. But on the lower levels, there surely were some guys left willing to do violence, considering they were willing in the nineties, eighties and seventies. And the upper levels in IRA didn't have full control over those small cells.

So what made those unknown people stop?

We know now they did stop, but what were their motivations to stop, when they were willing to kill just a few years before?
Some of them didn't stop. The IRA schismed, a new group called ''the real IRA'' continue plotting and carrying out acts of violence. They are republican dissidents at odds with mainstream republicans. They are fortunately small in numbers.

‘Arsenal of weapons and explosives’ was found at home of Seamus McGrane before Prince Charles’s 2015 visit to Ireland.
One of the founders of the Real IRA has been found guilty of planning a bomb attack during Prince Charles’s visit to Ireland in 2015.

Seamus McGrane was said to have discussed a bombing during the historic royal visit, Ireland’s special criminal court was told on Tuesday.

The 63-year-old from Co Louth in the Irish Republic was recorded discussing Real IRA activities including the attack planned for Prince Charles’s trip to Ireland. The heir to the British throne’s tour included a historically loaded visit to the spot in Co Sligo where the Provisional IRA murdered Lord Louis Mountbatten and three others in 1979.

The anti-terrorist court in Dublin heard on Tuesday that McGrane held discussions in a pub called The Coachman’s Inn early in 2015 with an IRA operative, Donal Ó Coisdealbha. The Garda (Irish police) had installed listening devices in the pub that secretly recorded McGrane talking about terrorist strategies.

McGrane also told Ó Coisdealbha the target was to have “military significance” and referred to someone “coming on the 19th” – the same day Prince Charles arrived in Ireland two years ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/real-ira

They are targets of both the security forces and other republican gangs.
Two gunmen have ambushed and killed a former leading figure in the Real IRA in the first murder of its kind in four years in Ireland.

The attackers approached Aidan “The Beast” O’Driscoll from behind in a street in Cork on Wednesday, shot him once in the back, then twice more as the 37-year-old lay on the pavement.

O’Driscoll, allegedly the Real IRA’s former chief of staff, died two hours later while undergoing surgery in hospital in the city.

The attack took place in the Blackpool area of the city at around 5pm. No group claimed responsibility.

Police said the list of suspects was long because O’Driscoll made many enemies in both gangland and IRA circles. Two cars believed to have been used by the attackers were abandoned in different parts of Cork and set on fire in a bid to destroy forensic evidence, a trademark IRA practice.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ork-street
Thanks. But how much of the violence committed by those small cells in the nineties were sanctioned by the leadership in the IRA? It seems like there were an ongoing effort in the top levels there at that time to reduce the conflict to a political, rather than a physical.
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They preyed upon the English people's restraint, really. If they did that to Americans, we'd have killed every last one of them.

I understand wanting to get the English the fuck out of your country, but targeting civilians is a no-go. Once you do that, you really have to get killed.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:They preyed upon the English people's restraint, really. If they did that to Americans, we'd have killed every last one of them.

I understand wanting to get the English the fuck out of your country, but targeting civilians is a no-go. Once you do that, you really have to get killed.
Since when is targeting civilians a no-go? Trump says "you have to take out their families" and Americans cheer. Wait, is it only bad when non-nation combatants target civilians but ok when nation combatants do?
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jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:They preyed upon the English people's restraint, really. If they did that to Americans, we'd have killed every last one of them.

I understand wanting to get the English the fuck out of your country, but targeting civilians is a no-go. Once you do that, you really have to get killed.
Since when is targeting civilians a no-go? Trump says "you have to take out their families" and Americans cheer. Wait, is it only bad when non-nation combatants target civilians but ok when nation combatants do?

What do you think would happen if Trump ordered our armed forces to target civilians?
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Speaker to Animals wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:They preyed upon the English people's restraint, really. If they did that to Americans, we'd have killed every last one of them.

I understand wanting to get the English the fuck out of your country, but targeting civilians is a no-go. Once you do that, you really have to get killed.
Since when is targeting civilians a no-go? Trump says "you have to take out their families" and Americans cheer. Wait, is it only bad when non-nation combatants target civilians but ok when nation combatants do?

What do you think would happen if Trump ordered our armed forces to target civilians?
We'd find out about it ten years later through something like WikiLeaks, it'd last in the news cycle for a week then the American people would forget about it.
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jediuser598 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:
Since when is targeting civilians a no-go? Trump says "you have to take out their families" and Americans cheer. Wait, is it only bad when non-nation combatants target civilians but ok when nation combatants do?

What do you think would happen if Trump ordered our armed forces to target civilians?
We'd find out about it ten years later through something like WikiLeaks, it'd last in the news cycle for a week then the American people would forget about it.

Negative. Illegal order. Go fuck yourself. That's what would happen.