Dan Carlin on Joe Rogan Experience #1041

[SilverEagle]

Go away joe

Why, he's a better man than you'll ever be Nuke. You racist piece of shit.

[StCapps]

More tears please.


“Blah blah blah blah blah SIFCLF blah blah blah blah Quebec blah blah blah!!!”
Copy and paste that in 50 more threads, you profound butt weasel.

At least I had an argument that wasn't putting words in people's mouth and pretending that a dystopia is the only possible outcome of any ethno state.

Dead discussion, you will not win, because I will not lose.

When will you niggaz learn?

[DBTrek]

Fascinating.

The opposite of.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I'm using the correct definition.
/shrugs

Everybody is. Clearly.

Not the case. Several folks are pretending the definition is narrower than it is, so they can argue against a silly strawman of those they disagree with, to fool themselves into thinking they are winning the argument. Hwen just did that.

I'm fine with, A political unit that is populated by and run in the interest of an ethnic group, other folks, not so much. Some people want to front like if a nation is populated by and acts in the interests of an ethnic group, than it must be working against the interest of some other ethnic group, like it's a prerequisite of being an Ethno State, when that is nowhere in the definition.

People clearly need to put aside their pre-conceptions of an ethnostate, and start looking at modern examples of ethnostates. Then they won't react like a SIFCLF at the near mention of an ethno state, because the idea will be infinitely less scary than the dystopia they had pictured in their head, when they become acquianted with some real world examples that are doing pretty well for themselves.

The only people freaking about Ethno States on this board, are people who don't understand what an ethnostate is, and think it automatically means something more negative or positive than the definition would indicate. They want the term "ethnostate" either to be an inherently positive or negative term, instead of the neutral term that it is, you see when they use the term, they only use it to mean the positive or negative variety exclusively and they wish everyone else would only use the term for that narrow definition they have in their heads as well.

Ok, so then if an entire state is run in the interest of an ethnic group, what do you think that means for other ethnic groups? Are they second-class citizens? Are they "cleansed" from the area of the state?

How do you define an ethnic group in legal terms? Maximum allowable melanin levels? 50% or greater ancestry from a given area? Ability to recite given rituals or norms of the selected group?

Do you have any idea how subjective this is, and why it would instantly turn into a dystopia?

[StCapps]

Ok, so then if an entire state is run in the interest of an ethnic group, what do you think that means for other ethnic groups?

It could mean any number of things, including positive things, negative things and neutral things, the whole damn spectrum.

Are they second-class citizens? Are they "cleansed" from the area of the state?

Quebec says "why the fuck do think that would automatically be the case?". A hypothetical ethno state might treat other ethnicities that way, but it's more likely that they wouldn't. Are non-Japanese "cleansed" from the area of the state? Are non-Francophones in Quebec?

How do you define an ethnic group in legal terms?

What's wrong with the way they do it now? White isn't an ethnic group, it's a race, aka caucausian, that inlcludes many different ethnic groups.

Maximum allowable melanin levels? 50% or greater ancestry from a given area? Ability to recite given rituals or norms of the selected group? Do you have any idea how subjective this is, and why it would instantly turn into a dystopia?

Your imagination only seems capable of seeing a dystopia, but that isn't because it's hard to think of ways an ethno state wouldn't be a dystopia, many modern examples of ethno states clearly aren't dystopic, your imagination just sucks because you got the SIFCLF blinders on.

[DBTrek]

Blah blah blah SIFCLF blah blah blah Quebec blah blah!!!

Did I call it or what?


Repetitive dummy is repetitive.

[StCapps]

Blah blah blah SIFCLF blah blah blah Quebec blah blah!!!

Did I call it or what?


Repetitive dummy is repetitive.

Ethno state = automatic dystopia, doesn't say that in the definition, that's all in the heads of folks like DBTrek and GrumpyCatFace.
Japan isn't a dystopia, South Korea isn't a dystopia, Ireland isn't a dystopia, Israel is not a dystopia. Reality doesn't agree with their visions of Nazi Germany being baked into the cake of any ethnostate, their imagination is just terrible.

[DBTrek]

Straw man to your heart’s content, we all see the extent of your intellectual capacity. No bactracking from that.
Lulz

[StCapps]

Straw man to your heart’s content, we all see the extent of your intellectual capacity. No bactracking from that.
Lulz

StCapps 2 - 0 DBTrek

[SuburbanFarmer]

Ok, so then if an entire state is run in the interest of an ethnic group, what do you think that means for other ethnic groups?

It could mean any number of things, including positive things, negative things and neutral things, the whole damn spectrum.

Not if you’re running a state in the interests of one group. There is no scenario in which that’s a positive for other groups living there.

Are they second-class citizens? Are they "cleansed" from the area of the state?

Quebec says "why the fuck do think that would automatically be the case?". A hypothetical ethno state might treat other ethnicities that way, but it's more likely that they wouldn't. Are non-Japanese "cleansed" from the area of the state?

They were, yes.

Are non-Francophones in Quebec?

Are your street signs in French?

How do you define an ethnic group in legal terms?

What's wrong with the way they do it now? White isn't an ethnic group, it's a race, aka caucausian, that inlcludes many different ethnic groups.

Galloping goalposts.

Maximum allowable melanin levels? 50% or greater ancestry from a given area? Ability to recite given rituals or norms of the selected group? Do you have any idea how subjective this is, and why it would instantly turn into a dystopia?

Your imagination only seems capable of seeing a dystopia, but that isn't because it's hard to think of ways an ethno state wouldn't be a dystopia, many modern examples of ethno states clearly aren't dystopic, your imagination just sucks because you got the SIFCLF blinders on.

If you say so.