Trump tells Congress that North Korea can kill 90% of the population with

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Post by skankhunt42 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:39 pm

Nobody here has raised the question as to whether this is even scientifically possible. I've read the novel, loved it in fact, but I've seen no evidence that this technology even exists. An upper atmospheric detonation of a Thermonuclear device does not = dark ages. It might mean a couple of street lights go out based on our scientific tests. It's not exactly a freaking Solar flare. It should be noted that as well that if North Korea attempted such, it would be an act of war and hell would be popping.

My point for posting this thread was to point out that the Government is lying in plain sight. Smitty is 100% Correct about his bullshit barometer.
Not only is 90% ridiculous, the very idea that the technology is even possible to create such an event is also preposterous.

This is dangerous. This is the kind of bullshit that got us in Vietnam, and got us back into Iraq with weapons of mass destruction.

I'm all for war with North Korea if there is no other option, but this idea that they can do this, and this is why we have to go to war is utter bullshit.
"just realize that our Welfare states are also propped up by your Warfare. You're not actually defending us from threats, but you are propping us up by fabricating threats to maintain the Perpetual War." - Smitty

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Post by skankhunt42 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:40 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote: Except when those numbers are being employed by the MIC to justify flushing tens of billions down the rabbit hole that is the Missile Defense Agency and associated GMD in Fairbanks Alaska, which wouldn't even stop an EMP, but would continue to be a nice little profit centre for Wall Street via corporate welfare to Boeing Defense Space & Security division.
Sounds like the MIC, using a work of fiction as fact.
This is what they do, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, in the 1950's, in order to justify handing a huge a contract to Boeing to build a thousand B-52's, Boeing got the politicians to assert the "Bomber Gap!", the claim was that the Soviets had a super bomber, the Bison bomber, and the "estimate" was that the Soviets had "800!" of them, actual number the Soviets had; 4. And they were junk.

Eisenhower didn't buy the Bomber Gap, he said it was bullshit, but congress kept on fapping hysterically until Boeing got their contract.

Same old same old MIC, same old same old Boeing.

Boeing Space Defense & Security > Missile Defense Agency > GMD Alaska > "ZOMG NORTH KOREA!, EMP GAP!"
CORRECTAMUNDO!
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Post by Fife » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:41 pm

I'm looking forward to the debates in Congress regarding the declaration of war against DPRK.

Should be good stuff, eh?

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:41 pm

Again: that argument is fucking asinine on the surface of it. The MIC has everything to lose from something like this since it would threaten their budget. MIC is not going to be hardening electrical grids. That will be all the utility subcontractors. MIC will not be running the Civil Defense Program. The MIC will try to kill that just like they did the last time. MIC are the ones trying to squash this issue.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:45 pm

That novel you guys keep referring to, as if that's the source of this talk (it's not), was a fucking broadside attack against the MIC. Of course they hate it and want this talk shut down.

Why would we be spending all this capital on the MIC when it's totally useless against anybody with EMP weapons? Why would we be spending all this money on power projection when we are totally vulnerable to a fatal nut shot from the likes of North Korea?

MIC are scrambling to discredit this and get all talk of it dampened down. They don't want people learning any part of this stuff.

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Post by Fife » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:48 pm

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Post by skankhunt42 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:50 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:That novel you guys keep referring to, as if that's the source of this talk (it's not), was a fucking broadside attack against the MIC. Of course they hate it and want this talk shut down.

Why would we be spending all this capital on the MIC when it's totally useless against anybody with EMP weapons? Why would we be spending all this money on power projection when we are totally vulnerable to a fatal nut shot from the likes of North Korea?

MIC are scrambling to discredit this and get all talk of it dampened down. They don't want people learning any part of this stuff.
Dude, there is no science backing that a Nuclear device detonated in the atmosphere like in the novel and like the way congress presented in real life would cause a total blackout of our electrical grids.

That's why I posted this thread to begin with! There is no evidence, none. This is a total scare tactic to put us into another fucking war based on bullshit intelligence.

If there is a reason to go to war with North Korea, it shouldn't be some made up bad science.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:51 pm

skankhunt42 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:That novel you guys keep referring to, as if that's the source of this talk (it's not), was a fucking broadside attack against the MIC. Of course they hate it and want this talk shut down.

Why would we be spending all this capital on the MIC when it's totally useless against anybody with EMP weapons? Why would we be spending all this money on power projection when we are totally vulnerable to a fatal nut shot from the likes of North Korea?

MIC are scrambling to discredit this and get all talk of it dampened down. They don't want people learning any part of this stuff.
Dude, there is no science backing that a Nuclear device detonated in the atmosphere like in the novel and like the way congress presented in real life would cause a total blackout of our electrical grids.

That's why I posted this thread to begin with! There is no evidence, none. This is a total scare tactic to put us into another fucking war based on bullshit intelligence.

If there is a reason to go to war with North Korea, it shouldn't be some made up bad science.

There actually is. It's all in the report before Congress.

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Post by skankhunt42 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:52 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
skankhunt42 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:That novel you guys keep referring to, as if that's the source of this talk (it's not), was a fucking broadside attack against the MIC. Of course they hate it and want this talk shut down.

Why would we be spending all this capital on the MIC when it's totally useless against anybody with EMP weapons? Why would we be spending all this money on power projection when we are totally vulnerable to a fatal nut shot from the likes of North Korea?

MIC are scrambling to discredit this and get all talk of it dampened down. They don't want people learning any part of this stuff.
Dude, there is no science backing that a Nuclear device detonated in the atmosphere like in the novel and like the way congress presented in real life would cause a total blackout of our electrical grids.

That's why I posted this thread to begin with! There is no evidence, none. This is a total scare tactic to put us into another fucking war based on bullshit intelligence.

If there is a reason to go to war with North Korea, it shouldn't be some made up bad science.

There actually is. It's all in the report before Congress.
Just like the weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq you mean?
"just realize that our Welfare states are also propped up by your Warfare. You're not actually defending us from threats, but you are propping us up by fabricating threats to maintain the Perpetual War." - Smitty

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:54 pm

What's actually amazing about the MIC, and why I always hold MIC in my portfolio, is that they can literally turn a tiny pigmy like North Korea into a "existential threat" even greater than the entire Soviet Union in the Cold War, there wasn't an estimate of "90% lethality" even in the event of a massive Soviet countervalue strike, but all of a sudden, one dinky missile from North Korea, packs more punch than 12,000 hydrogen bombs from the Soviet Union, it's uncanny the way they can snow people in America, it's recession proof, Boeing in 2008; $40, $260 now, up 60% since Nuclear Hitler ran for President.
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