Well, I'm offended that he likes boning guys, and has no spine of his own to allow different viewpoints to exist in his own little personal safe space of sodomy...Nukedog wrote:Case closed. The faggots got offended. Pack it in guys.
C-Mag wrote:Balkanization is fun to talk about, I really enjoy theorizing stuff like that, but I'd just prefer we of a few much easier things.Speaker to Animals wrote:
We can still have an America. I just think we need to swap out a federal government with a confederal government and start over. Let people in these regions govern themselves as they see fit. We probably need to split up some states into smaller states as well. For instance, I'd imagine Washingtonians would want to split the state in half somewhere along the Cascades. Maybe merge Eastern Washington and Oregon into a new state, or just merge them all with Idaho, I guess. In any case, the problem here is that we really cannot all get along. It's not going to happen. Divide it up and let people govern themselves as they see fit. Let the entire Left Coast become the marxist utopia they want so the rest of us can live our lives in peace.
1. Reiterate the Xth Amendment and strengthen power of states
2. Prevent the Fed from using the Interstate Commerce laws as a hammer to suck up more power
3. Reduce the footprint of the Federal government
Was that sign outside their doors?Fife wrote:
^^^ End of story.Fife wrote:
Ah. From the video I did except that it would be that, but thanks for supplying more background info. It's a sad trend. Shouldn't matter that his customers or guests are assholes, unless they direct their assholery into destruction of, threats to, or harrasment of, his and his customers or his cafe's property and lives.DBTrek wrote:According to a source I didn't use for this story, here's what led up to the confrontation:BjornP wrote:The only legitimate reason I can think of for throwing them out, is if they were handing out their flyers within his establishment or bothering his customers beforehand. We don't see what happened before the recording, after all.
. . . The abolitionists had been actively engaging people in the city for several days, sharing the gospel, holding signs exposing the abortion holocaust, and handing out literature to people of the streets. According to abolitionist Caytie Davis, the group entered Bedlam Coffee to rest and have a drink but did not engage anyone there.
“We had nothing on us, we weren’t distributing anything,” Davis said. “We bought coffee and went upstairs.” Within minutes of their arrival, the barista ran up the stairs and into the back room to alert the owner of their presence.
A moment later, the owner burst in, shouting, “You have to leave.”
“We were all taken aback because we had no idea what he was talking about,” Davis said. The owner then showed them a pamphlet he had found and demanded to know if it belonged to them. The pamphlet featured an image of an aborted child, as well as rainbow colored imagery along with an explanation of what the rainbow means according to scripture; a symbol of God’s longsuffering mercy toward sinners.
“None of us had dropped anything in the store,” Davis said. “But we told him yes, it was one that we had been handing out in the city, and asked where he’d found it. He told us he found it outside.”
When the abolitionists asked why they had to leave, the owner told them, “This offends me.”
http://theliberator.news/2017/homosexua ... hristians/
As the owner it's his choice. Nobody complains about "no shirt, no shoes, no service", it's not based on skin color - something you are born with, but rather something the owner finds objectionable or perhaps objectionable to his other customers.Speaker to Animals wrote:The funny part of this story is, if these are the people I am thinking of, they kicked all the Catholics out of their organization, so it's not like they don't do it too.
Most of us see refusing service on account of something that makes no moral distinction, like race, as loathsome. But I think we need to walk back the idea that we shouldn't discriminate based on ideas and moral choices. To that homosexual coffee shop owner, these people were wicked wrongthinkers. I think he's crazy, but that's his life and his choice to make. If this abolition group is who I think they are, they have every right to refuse to allow Catholics to get involved in their organization. That's their choice just as it is the choice of those Catholic apple orchard folks to refuse to open up their home and farm to a homosexual wedding.
Surely we can all see that this guy getting offended at the ideas that these people espouse and fight for is wholly different than some guy who doesn't want to serve black people. Your politics and religion are choices you make in life. We all make different choices according to our consciences (or lack thereof). True tolerance involves respecting those choices. He made his choice and people ought to respect that. We don't have to agree with it, only respect it, as we would want him to respect our choices.
Oh, I'd have fun with him... I'd drag a cross on my back, and ask where I can set this up and hang around for the amusement.Ph64 wrote:As the owner it's his choice. Nobody complains about "no shirt, no shoes, no service", it's not based on skin color - something you are born with, but rather something the owner finds objectionable or perhaps objectionable to his other customers.Speaker to Animals wrote:The funny part of this story is, if these are the people I am thinking of, they kicked all the Catholics out of their organization, so it's not like they don't do it too.
Most of us see refusing service on account of something that makes no moral distinction, like race, as loathsome. But I think we need to walk back the idea that we shouldn't discriminate based on ideas and moral choices. To that homosexual coffee shop owner, these people were wicked wrongthinkers. I think he's crazy, but that's his life and his choice to make. If this abolition group is who I think they are, they have every right to refuse to allow Catholics to get involved in their organization. That's their choice just as it is the choice of those Catholic apple orchard folks to refuse to open up their home and farm to a homosexual wedding.
Surely we can all see that this guy getting offended at the ideas that these people espouse and fight for is wholly different than some guy who doesn't want to serve black people. Your politics and religion are choices you make in life. We all make different choices according to our consciences (or lack thereof). True tolerance involves respecting those choices. He made his choice and people ought to respect that. We don't have to agree with it, only respect it, as we would want him to respect our choices.
I'd respect his choice, and take my business elsewhere. Enough people take their business elsewhere and his coffee shop goes under financially - but that would be solely by his own choices. Capitalism at work.
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