Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:28 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Pretty sure the Blue Staters could get Mexico to help block off the gulf too. ;)
The Red Staters would have to operate like the drug cartels, in fact, selling contraband would have to be one of their major sources of vital capital, but it would have to run the gauntlet, the Red Staters would need a Ho Chi Minh Trail of their very own.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:33 pm

The saving grace would probably be Cascadia, not that Cascadia would side with the Red Staters, they wouldn't, but they probably wouldn't side with the Blue Hegenomy in New York neither, so the Red Staters would have to run a Ho Chi Minh Trail to neutral Cascadia, through the Rockies, running the robotic death from above gaunlet the whole way, drone swarms circling above like carrion birds, and this is why Colorado Springs would become their fortress, the gateway to the pass.
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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:36 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Pretty sure the Blue Staters could get Mexico to help block off the gulf too. ;)
The Red Staters would have to operate like the drug cartels, in fact, selling contraband would have to be one of their major sources of vital capital, but it would have to run the gauntlet, the Red Staters would need a Ho Chi Minh Trail of their very own.
If only they were nicer to Mexicans, maybe they could get some pointers on how to properly manage a cartel. Instead, us Blue Staters will be using our fat stacks of cash to higher them all as special consultants.

Shit, I am pretty sure Blue would win this without ever having to learn how to field strip shit, or fire a shot. We can win it like we won the last one... higher ringers and draft immigrants.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:44 pm

Once the Blue Staters were forced to fight a real war instead of the Jobs Program Wars, they switch to robotics, it would go very autonomous very quickly, they would just stand off and use machines, he who had the international financing would have all the tech, Red State Kyle Reese would be looking over his shoulder day and night, watching out for the Terminators.
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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:52 pm

I think that is really the crux of it. the Bubbas ain't fighting Uncle Sam... they're fighting Lord Sam, Global and Gender Neutral Imperator for Life.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:56 pm

Yeah, they're the National Liberation Front on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, Uncah Sugah International circling with Chinese Communist made robotic death from above.

Things like tanks and artillery and whatnot, that would all be obsolete for this kind of war, and the Red Staters wouldn't have the financing to maintain control of the skies nor the seas, so they'd be having to hunker down to take the pounding like the North Vietnamese.

Just another reason to hug the mountains, cause they'd have to dig in and live underground, the Great Plains would be the killing fields, won't survive long out there, against the Arc Light strikes.

Unmanned bombers up there day and night, and when they detect you, they don't drop a stick of bombs, they drop a stick of killer robots to hunt you down.
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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by clubgop » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:10 am

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clubgop wrote: Take a look at Manhattan on a map, a few hundred troops blocking 2 tunnels, 3 bridges and you have 10 million in a box. Red states have factories sitting dormant ready to make shit. The red states are food and energy, the blue states can't even cook a can of beans without us. Look at California if not for Red states they would not gas, no oil refinery, no power, and no fucking water, so no food.
Close the bridges to Manhattan? Them hillbillies ain't gonna get within a thousand miles of Manhattan, they'd be fleeing out into Fly Over Country to shelter from the Blue storm which would befall them.

The Blue Imperial Hegenomy would have the international financing, there's zero chance the rest of the world sides with the Red Staters, the world sides with the Blue Staters, and so they would have access to the world, they would still be rich, the Red Staters would be the poor boys, and as for resources, the Blue Staters can get all that from Canada, oil, gas, power, water, and gold, Canada is with the Blue Staters, that's a given, it's the Red Staters who would be cut off, because the Blue Staters would rule the waves, they'd take the whole eastern seaboard, the Red Staters would have to be trying to run the gauntlet through the Gulf of Mexico, otherwise they'd be land locked.

The first thing the Blue Staters would go after would be the Red food supply, ain't no way they could protect their crops, they can go underground to escape the robotic Arc Light, but they can't take their farms underground with them, so their food supply is wide open to attack, and they're not going to have the strategically powerful military to retaliate with in kind.

It would be like the Confederacy all over again, the Red Staters threadbare down on the plantation, while the Blue Staters lived high on the hog in New York.

The Red Staters are gonna be the Vietcong in this war, except with no support from the Russians nor Chinese, the Russians and Chinese would side with the Blue Staters, everybody would, the whole world would come down on the Red Staters, without quarter nor mercy, wouldn't matter how good the Red Riflemen were, because most of them would never see what killed them, it would be robotic death from above, just like it is in Waziristan, except on steroids.

Maybe someday they'd win their Independence, after a long and brutal war of attrition, but that war would come first, and it would very one sided in favour of the Blue.
I think the rest of the world would take a back seat for a while. Let them kill each other and then take whatever you want. I don't get the idea why bleed for a bunch blue state faggots when you can watch the reds starve them and then seize the day. Besides you dont see the propaganda/PR side, the same people screaming bloody murder about Russians buying facebook ads are going to endorse a foreign enitity to invade and kill their fellow countrymen? Some of them, like GCF, have no principles but a great many would not be able to go there. As for Mexico they are broken at the border they don't run things there the cartels do and they have a whole other agenda.

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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by clubgop » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:15 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Yeah, they're the National Liberation Front on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, Uncah Sugah International circling with Chinese Communist made robotic death from above.

Things like tanks and artillery and whatnot, that would all be obsolete for this kind of war, and the Red Staters wouldn't have the financing to maintain control of the skies nor the seas, so they'd be having to hunker down to take the pounding like the North Vietnamese.

Just another reason to hug the mountains, cause they'd have to dig in and live underground, the Great Plains would be the killing fields, won't survive long out there, against the Arc Light strikes.

Unmanned bombers up there day and night, and when they detect you, they don't drop a stick of bombs, they drop a stick of killer robots to hunt you down.
So the whole world doesn't get fed. Not a great plan.

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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by ssu » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:19 am

Fife wrote:Point:

Yes, the Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

History shows that an armed citizenry can, in fact, challenge a government it sees as unjust.

And then:

Battle of Athens (1946)

What say you all? Do you understand the right to self-defense?
Yep, this argument is one of the most bizarre and strange things about the US.

The truth of course is that the vast majority citizenry, BE IT ARMED OR NOT, can easily challenge a government it sees as unjust.

Oh yes, I forget: In America you don't see the military (or the police) being part of your citizenry. They seem to be the zombies you have to fight with your hand guns and semi-automatic rifles in some mythical battle between good and evil. :whistle:

And how an evil threat is your country to you?

As myself I train reservists who voluntarily, without pay, come to refresher training to the military and hence do a lot of voluntary work for the government, the idea that one's own government in a functioning justice state, that my grandfathers fought for, is the enemy that I have to have firearms to protect from (because of what, pinko-liberal SJW's) is simply ludicrous.

And the "armed militia" of the citizenry? Heck, there should be have a charity giving semi-automatic rifles to ethnic majorities for free especially in some open carry state, and let's see how safe people would feel then about an armed citizenry.

Besides, your IRS has fantastically bizarre reach to tax every American even those who live in a foreign land, which is truly exceptional. In the end, your taxes aren't so much lower... especially when lacking the services others have with their taxes. So I guess these permissive gun laws are a thing that simply make you feel so free and exceptional, which otherwise the US citizen isn't.

So I guess in the end it's that part of the country can have there guns and part of the country can smoke their weed. And people are happy!

In Finland it's different. Here the government makes angry citizenry compliant By giving the medals. It works. Especially when not all get it.


(Translation: "I hate this fucking job!"-"Here, have a medal, congratulations!"-"Now I don't hate my job anymore!"

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Re: Self-Defense: The Bubbas Can Beat Uncle Sam

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:29 am

clubgop wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Yeah, they're the National Liberation Front on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, Uncah Sugah International circling with Chinese Communist made robotic death from above.

Things like tanks and artillery and whatnot, that would all be obsolete for this kind of war, and the Red Staters wouldn't have the financing to maintain control of the skies nor the seas, so they'd be having to hunker down to take the pounding like the North Vietnamese.

Just another reason to hug the mountains, cause they'd have to dig in and live underground, the Great Plains would be the killing fields, won't survive long out there, against the Arc Light strikes.

Unmanned bombers up there day and night, and when they detect you, they don't drop a stick of bombs, they drop a stick of killer robots to hunt you down.
So the whole world doesn't get fed. Not a great plan.
Top two AG producers are California and Iowa (which went blue in 6 of the last 10 elections). Washington is number 10, and Minnesota and Illinois, at 5 and 6, and Wisconsin at 8, are hardly givens for going red.

This whole idea that red states would control the AG is a ridiculous canard.
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