Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by The Conservative » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:28 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:That is cool. There's got to be a biochemical way to harness sun light as well.
Yeah, just google videos about birds chasing bugs into those things.

They may help us, but they destroy ecosystems.
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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:31 pm

Solar has limited uses, but the dog and pony show you are sold by the environmentalists is a fucking joke.

Nuclear power is the only viable direction we have right now.

If we can get into space, sure, solar will be king there.

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Post by Montegriffo » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:48 am

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TheReal_ND wrote:That is cool. There's got to be a biochemical way to harness sun light as well.
Yeah, just google videos about birds chasing bugs into those things.

They may help us, but they destroy ecosystems.
That's why you build them in places like Morocco, there is very little wildlife in the Sahara desert and you are not using valuable farmland. There are many such areas around the globe where the land has no other use and can be used for solar energy. If you really care about wildlife then the faster we can move away from fossil fuels the better. Changing the climate will damage the environment far more than solar energy.
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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:23 am

Montegriffo wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:That is cool. There's got to be a biochemical way to harness sun light as well.
Yeah, just google videos about birds chasing bugs into those things.

They may help us, but they destroy ecosystems.
That's why you build them in places like Morocco, there is very little wildlife in the Sahara desert and you are not using valuable farmland. There are many such areas around the globe where the land has no other use and can be used for solar energy. If you really care about wildlife then the faster we can move away from fossil fuels the better. Changing the climate will damage the environment far more than solar energy.
This. We have no shortage of deserts around for this. Just have to pay some poor bastard to clean off the panels every day.
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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:29 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Yeah, just google videos about birds chasing bugs into those things.

They may help us, but they destroy ecosystems.
That's why you build them in places like Morocco, there is very little wildlife in the Sahara desert and you are not using valuable farmland. There are many such areas around the globe where the land has no other use and can be used for solar energy. If you really care about wildlife then the faster we can move away from fossil fuels the better. Changing the climate will damage the environment far more than solar energy.
This. We have no shortage of deserts around for this. Just have to pay some poor bastard to clean off the panels every day.
You could pay someone or you could just automate it. Something like a windscreen wiper.
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Post by Ex-California » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:32 am

Montegriffo wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
That's why you build them in places like Morocco, there is very little wildlife in the Sahara desert and you are not using valuable farmland. There are many such areas around the globe where the land has no other use and can be used for solar energy. If you really care about wildlife then the faster we can move away from fossil fuels the better. Changing the climate will damage the environment far more than solar energy.
This. We have no shortage of deserts around for this. Just have to pay some poor bastard to clean off the panels every day.
You could pay someone or you could just automate it. Something like a windscreen wiper.
Have you seen how large these things are?

Also, deserts are windy, that's why the one on the way to Vegas is fucked up
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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:32 am

Montegriffo wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:That is cool. There's got to be a biochemical way to harness sun light as well.
Yeah, just google videos about birds chasing bugs into those things.

They may help us, but they destroy ecosystems.
That's why you build them in places like Morocco, there is very little wildlife in the Sahara desert and you are not using valuable farmland. There are many such areas around the globe where the land has no other use and can be used for solar energy. If you really care about wildlife then the faster we can move away from fossil fuels the better. Changing the climate will damage the environment far more than solar energy.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by Ex-California » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:34 am

The Conservative wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Yeah, just google videos about birds chasing bugs into those things.

They may help us, but they destroy ecosystems.
That's why you build them in places like Morocco, there is very little wildlife in the Sahara desert and you are not using valuable farmland. There are many such areas around the globe where the land has no other use and can be used for solar energy. If you really care about wildlife then the faster we can move away from fossil fuels the better. Changing the climate will damage the environment far more than solar energy.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

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6000 annually? I'm sure 6000 birds are killed daily by big rigs
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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:41 am

California wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
That's why you build them in places like Morocco, there is very little wildlife in the Sahara desert and you are not using valuable farmland. There are many such areas around the globe where the land has no other use and can be used for solar energy. If you really care about wildlife then the faster we can move away from fossil fuels the better. Changing the climate will damage the environment far more than solar energy.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

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6000 annually? I'm sure 6000 birds are killed daily by big rigs
Lets take this into consideration, rigs have been around for how many decades?

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 0/abstract

Lets also look at this abstract:

Altamont Pass Wind Resource Area, California: 888,000 bat and 573,000 bird fatalities/year (including 83,000 raptor fatalities)/year in 2012...

You do the math...
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Re: Sun Edison - Solar Energy is too expensive?

Post by Ex-California » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:58 am

The Conservative wrote:
California wrote:
6000 annually? I'm sure 6000 birds are killed daily by big rigs
Lets take this into consideration, rigs have been around for how many decades?

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 0/abstract

Lets also look at this abstract:

Altamont Pass Wind Resource Area, California: 888,000 bat and 573,000 bird fatalities/year (including 83,000 raptor fatalities)/year in 2012...

You do the math...
What's your point? That orders of magnitude are killed more by wind than solar?
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