Rome v. USMC

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Would a Marine be unable to adjust to the disruption to the supply chain (especially given a meta awareness of the disruption; we are assuming the transported unit retains all of its historical knowledge and wisdom)?

You guys suddenly sound like a bunch of swivel chair jockeys at the Pentagon fidgeting with your pocket protectors.

Are Marines even any good without Unca Sugar shoveling in the frozen dinners, petrol, and xbox? :think:
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Speaker to Animals wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Realistically they'd max out at about 20 magazines for 600 rds, plus a 200 rd belt for the machine gun, that's a deliberate assault load, but it's gonna be heavy, that's putting them up into 120 lbs each territory with all the rest of their kit.

They could certainly kill a few thousand Romans, but in doing so would be bringing a few hundred thousand Romans down upon them, at which point they would run out of ammo real fast.

That's pretty much how I see it. I don't think people realize how dependent upon stable supply lines a modern unit really is.

The closest parallel to something like this would be Pizarro's conquest of the Incan empire. He relied mostly upon his swords and indigenous forces to do what he did. They ran out of ammunition eventually and had no way to easily fabricate more. Even their armor was starting to break down eventually.
As with all war in the end, everything comes down to logistics.
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Supply is life.
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Fife wrote:Would a Marine be unable to adjust to the disruption to the supply chain (especially given a meta awareness of the disruption; we are assuming the transported unit retains all of its historical knowledge and wisdom)?

You guys suddenly sound like a bunch of swivel chair jockeys at the Pentagon fidgeting with your pocket protectors.

Are Marines even any good without Unca Sugar shoveling in the frozen dinners, petrol, and xbox? :think:
The issue is simply, how long could they hold out until they were forced to come to grips with the Romans in a knife fight, because once it gets to the knife fight, my money's on the Romans.

If I wanted to take the Romans down, I wouldn't send the Marines, I would send Samurai.
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Smitty-48 wrote:As with all war in the end, everything comes down to logistics.
I deny that it is a pure math problem.


You sound like some little bitch fucking with his pocket protector and fumbling with his plastic framed glasses right about now.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:Supply is life.

Certainly.

Would the Marines have any hope of maintaining supply, other than waiting for an air drop that doesn't exist?
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If I were tasked with the project, I would build up a medieval army, honestly. Heavy cavalry. Heavy armor. Men-at-arms, etc. You go in with blacksmiths and everything so you can re-purpose and recycle gear you collect. The guns I would bring in would be more like light cavalry circa late 1800s. Artillery would be 19th century cannons, since I could easily create new cannon balls from looted material and with a detailed map of the resources in the Italian peninsula collect what I need to manufacture gun powder.
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Now you're thinking.
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Fife wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:As with all war in the end, everything comes down to logistics.
I deny that it is a pure math problem.


You sound like some little bitch fucking with his pocket protector and fumbling with his plastic framed glasses right about now.
When the Marines ran out of gas and ammo, they would be reduced to facing the Romans on the Roman's terms, I don't care how much bayonet training a Marine has had, he doesn't stand a chance against a Roman in a knife fight, forget the Legions, just your average Roman street tough would be able to gut a Marine like a fish.

Never mind going toe to toe with Roman heavy infantry, the Marines wouldn't last two minutes in a Roman street brawl.
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Smitty-48 wrote:
Fife wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:As with all war in the end, everything comes down to logistics.
I deny that it is a pure math problem.


You sound like some little bitch fucking with his pocket protector and fumbling with his plastic framed glasses right about now.
When the Marines ran out of gas and ammo, they would be reduced to facing the Romans on the Roman's terms, I don't care how much bayonet training a Marine has had, he doesn't stand a chance against a Roman in a knife fight, forget the Legions, just your average Roman street tough would be able to gut a Marine like a fish.

Never mind going toe to toe with Roman heavy infantry, the Marines wouldn't last two minutes in a Roman street brawl.

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