Did Democrats really re-elect Nancy Pelosi as Speaker?

[jbird4049]

I don't think the Democrats are going to get over it anytime soon, I think they will have to be defeated at least twice, before they even start to get the message. Took the Liberals here almost a decade to recover from Harper Derangement Syndrome, exact same pattern is playing out down south now with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Usually I'd agree with you, but the political volatility reminds me of the 1850s. Different causes, but the political establishment couldn't deal with the changes in the economy, and really failed in dealings with slavery. So the Whigs imploded, and parties like the Republican and the Know-Nothings arose. Heck, in 1860 the Democratic Party split in two.

Today the political establishment in general and the major parties in particular are failing. It is a race to see which party dies first.

[Hastur]

The Democrats didn't learn anything from this election.

[K@th]

I don't think the Democrats are going to get over it anytime soon, I think they will have to be defeated at least twice, before they even start to get the message. Took the Liberals here almost a decade to recover from Harper Derangement Syndrome, exact same pattern is playing out down south now with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I live in Leftyville and I'd say right now, that's how it looks. It's early, though. They are still licking wounds. There's an over-reaction to everything. I'd agree that a decade seems about right. (Not until the end of time, as some are claiming. )

This division is destroying us. I'd like both teams to remember that it was their loving and caring politicians who created this divide, specifically so they could line their pockets while the rest of us were busy blaming each other for every perceived butt hurt.

/sigh

[K@th]

Except that isn't even remotely what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out, let me know. I'll fill you in. I'm generous like that.

Well, next time you quote me, could you respond to what I said instead of whatever you dreamed up in your head? Many things happened a century ago, but I was specifically addressing the back and forth power struggle in DC.

[Speaker to Animals]

I don't think the Democrats are going to get over it anytime soon, I think they will have to be defeated at least twice, before they even start to get the message. Took the Liberals here almost a decade to recover from Harper Derangement Syndrome, exact same pattern is playing out down south now with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I live in Leftyville and I'd say right now, that's how it looks. It's early, though. They are still licking wounds. There's an over-reaction to everything. I'd agree that a decade seems about right. (Not until the end of time, as some are claiming. )

This division is destroying us. I'd like both teams to remember that it was their loving and caring politicians who created this divide, specifically so they could line their pockets while the rest of us were busy blaming each other for every perceived butt hurt.

/sigh

This divide has been here from day one. Politicians didn't create it. Well, unless you want to count all the politicians during the English Civil Wars.

[K@th]

This divide has been here from day one. Politicians didn't create it. Well, unless you want to count all the politicians during the English Civil Wars.

Sure, people have been disagreeing since people became a thing. We have boatloads of examples (decades) of both parties working together for the common good. If not, we'd be in a constant state of Civil War. That's not how it's been, though. Not everyone believes we're at constant war with "them." It's when we start believing the other "team" is un American that we get into trouble.

I don't think any American on this forum hates America. Apparently, though, you do?

[Speaker to Animals]

This divide has been here from day one. Politicians didn't create it. Well, unless you want to count all the politicians during the English Civil Wars.

Sure, people have been disagreeing since people became a thing. We have boatloads of examples (decades) of both parties working together for the common good. If not, we'd be in a constant state of Civil War. That's not how it's been, though. Not everyone believes we're at constant war with "them." It's when we start believing the other "team" is un American that we get into trouble.

I don't think any American on this forum hates America. Apparently, though, you do?

This is deeper than political parties.

This divide goes back to the English Civil War. This is a conflict between the Puritans and the Cavaliers, with the Scots-Irish taking the side of the Cavaliers, and the Quakers(Midlings) taking the side of the Puritans.

That doesn't mean you necessarily have to be descended from one of those groups, but you certainly have been acculturated into one. In your case, it's solid yank (Puritan).

Which also is sort of why a NYC president is not a bad idea. Trump has those Dutch values that are able to keep the peace between disparate groups.

[K@th]

I've never been called a Puritan before.

[Speaker to Animals]

I've never been called a Puritan before.

You are thinking of it in the colloquial sense. You are a definite Yankee. Yankee culture is puritanical in nature. I don't mean that in the sexual sense. I mean puritanical in the religious sense. Puritans were a utopian group who believed they needed to live according to a set code in order to create a heaven on Earth, and they were fanatical about imposing that upon all the people around them. They were keen on shunning, ostracizing, and socially punishing those who dissented from the utopia ideology. From Day One Puritans set out to convert the entire continent to Puritanism.

These days, the original religion is mostly gone from the Yankees and replaced by a new religion of progressivism. But the basic qualities are the same. Everybody has to behave in a certain way or face extreme social punishment. If we all don't live in that way, then society is going to become hell on Earth, but if we follow the program, utopia will ensue. The new original sin is white male guilt. One can go on, but the fact remains, you guys are not very different from your cultural ancestors in some important ways that are negatively affecting our nation today.

That's not to say your main rivals, Deep Southerners don't have their own foibles. The problem is that, right now, all this chaos and violence is coming from the people who are acculturated into progressivism, and you guys now control most of schools, universities, and the media. So you are going apeshit trying to indoctrinate the nation.

There are good things about your culture too. Industriousness and value in higher education are what make it so strong. It's not all bad. But right now, we can't help but see the bad. It's all over the place.

[K@th]

Us guys? WTF? Seriously... you only read my posts when they disagree with your world view. You have no idea what my actual views are... only the narrative you've built in your head about me.

I can't take your opinion of me seriously, so feel free to stop telling me what I think at any time. Read my signature.