THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:14 pm

KerningChameleon wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
It's going to get a lot less white in the future and there is no way to stop it. I have no problem with it but if you think you can turn the tide on demographics, when the white demo is getting much older, you are wrong.
Tell that to Japan.
This got buried under the nuke/ssu feud and Crappy Beige Beep Boop Box Nostalgia/Generational Pedantry discussions, but here we go.

Japan is just getting less, period. They have the worse birth rate/death rate problems of anyone, and the clampdown on immigration has only intensified the issue for them. In a couple generations, China won't have to fire a shot, they'll just be able to stroll onto the mostly empty island and unhook a few geriatric millennials being nursed by Roombas from their oxygen tanks.

Keep in mind their government and culture is way more conservative, traditional, and authority respecting than ours and they still can't get their people making babies.
You don't know what is going to happen. Stop bullshitting. The fact is they have effectively maintained an immigration policy that preserves their demographics.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:16 pm

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And the entire history of Microsoft didn't happen? Bill Gates brought pcs to the masses, using DOS. It was a civilization-changing event.
Bill Gates didn't invent the PC, Bill Gates wasn't the one dispersing them, the customers were the ones driving the dispersal, GG's/War Babies Invented the PC and the Internet, they also dispersed the PC to the office for the Boomers to use, then Gen X was the ones who drove the dispersal of those office computers to the home, where Boomers had never actually used computers nor were even interested in doing so, then the Internet came to the home, where the Gen Xers who were using the PC in their rooms, were the ones who adapted to it. GG's, to War Babies, to Gen X, the Boomers were neither the inventors nor the dispersers of the age we live in now.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by KerningChameleon » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:19 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
KerningChameleon wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Tell that to Japan.
This got buried under the nuke/ssu feud and Crappy Beige Beep Boop Box Nostalgia/Generational Pedantry discussions, but here we go.

Japan is just getting less, period. They have the worse birth rate/death rate problems of anyone, and the clampdown on immigration has only intensified the issue for them. In a couple generations, China won't have to fire a shot, they'll just be able to stroll onto the mostly empty island and unhook a few geriatric millennials being nursed by Roombas from their oxygen tanks.

Keep in mind their government and culture is way more conservative, traditional, and authority respecting than ours and they still can't get their people making babies.
You don't know what is going to happen. Stop bullshitting. The fact is they have effectively maintained an immigration policy that preserves their demographics.
So Actual Gradual Extinction of Demographic is preferable to Proportional Extinction of a Demographic, got it.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Penner » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:20 pm

KerningChameleon wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
It's going to get a lot less white in the future and there is no way to stop it. I have no problem with it but if you think you can turn the tide on demographics, when the white demo is getting much older, you are wrong.
Tell that to Japan.
This got buried under the nuke/ssu feud and Crappy Beige Beep Boop Box Nostalgia/Generational Pedantry discussions, but here we go.

Japan is just getting less, period. They have the worse birth rate/death rate problems of anyone, and the clampdown on immigration has only intensified the issue for them. In a couple generations, China won't have to fire a shot, they'll just be able to stroll onto the mostly empty island and unhook a few geriatric millennials being nursed by Roombas from their oxygen tanks.

Keep in mind their government and culture is way more conservative, traditional, and authority respecting than ours and they still can't get their people making babies.
I once heard that Japan thinks that automation will help ease their upcoming (well, they are already starting to face it) demographic problem.

As with China, China's problem was the one-child policy that many couples would kill/abort any babies/fetus that was girls and now they have a large male/female ratio. Which means that these dudes are going to have a hard time finding a wife and fathering kids of their own.

China has now dropped that one-child policy, but it still will affect them for at least another generation to come.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by KerningChameleon » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:22 pm

Penner wrote:
KerningChameleon wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Tell that to Japan.
This got buried under the nuke/ssu feud and Crappy Beige Beep Boop Box Nostalgia/Generational Pedantry discussions, but here we go.

Japan is just getting less, period. They have the worse birth rate/death rate problems of anyone, and the clampdown on immigration has only intensified the issue for them. In a couple generations, China won't have to fire a shot, they'll just be able to stroll onto the mostly empty island and unhook a few geriatric millennials being nursed by Roombas from their oxygen tanks.

Keep in mind their government and culture is way more conservative, traditional, and authority respecting than ours and they still can't get their people making babies.
I once heard that Japan thinks that automation will help ease their upcoming (well, they are already starting to face it) demographic problem.

As with China, China's problem was the one-child policy that many couples would kill/abort any babies/fetus that was girls and now they have a large male/female ratio. Which means that these dudes are going to have a hard time finding a wife and fathering kids of their own.

China has now dropped that one-child policy, but it still will affect them for at least another generation to come.
Chinese women know the smart thing to do is woo an American boy and ride that sweet, sweet Green Card all the way to the states.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Penner » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:24 pm

KerningChameleon wrote:
Penner wrote:
KerningChameleon wrote:
This got buried under the nuke/ssu feud and Crappy Beige Beep Boop Box Nostalgia/Generational Pedantry discussions, but here we go.

Japan is just getting less, period. They have the worse birth rate/death rate problems of anyone, and the clampdown on immigration has only intensified the issue for them. In a couple generations, China won't have to fire a shot, they'll just be able to stroll onto the mostly empty island and unhook a few geriatric millennials being nursed by Roombas from their oxygen tanks.

Keep in mind their government and culture is way more conservative, traditional, and authority respecting than ours and they still can't get their people making babies.
I once heard that Japan thinks that automation will help ease their upcoming (well, they are already starting to face it) demographic problem.

As with China, China's problem was the one-child policy that many couples would kill/abort any babies/fetus that was girls and now they have a large male/female ratio. Which means that these dudes are going to have a hard time finding a wife and fathering kids of their own.

China has now dropped that one-child policy, but it still will affect them for at least another generation to come.
Chinese women know the smart thing to do is woo an American boy and ride that sweet, sweet Green Card all the way to the states.
I know someone who is married to a foreigner (actually a few people I know) and getting that sweet, sweet green card is way more harder, even when they all got hitched. Although, it seemed like some got it easier than some others.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:25 pm

StCapps wrote:Except that statement is true for every people of every nationality, so it isn't hateful to say some illegal immigrants from Mexico bring drugs and crime and some are good people. The media pretending that because he was talking about illegal immigration from Mexico at the time that he must be hateful towards Mexicans by saying such a thing, instead of just the illegal immigrants who bring drugs and crime, like he specifically said is not justifiable demonzation. That is not a natural leap, that is deliberate media slander.
If it's media slander, it's very typical media slander.

What is evident here is that Trump chose an "over-the-top" style in addressing these issues to gain the incentive and to be the focus of the political discourse from the other GOP candidates. Just like with the "total ban on Muslims" and the "Great Wall", to start with talking about "increases in border control" wouldn't have caught the attention of anybody. Would be boring normal politician talk. Trump just wouldn't have been the Trump, if he would have started with "extreme vetting" or the things. Outrageousness got him the limelight. But naturallly that also gets negative publicity.

I don't think Trump isn't a racist and surely he isn't an ideologue. That's why he no Hitler. Just the American version of Berlusconi, which one has to say was one of the most long serving Prime Ministers of Italy, so no bad politician.

I mean let's just look at what he has done. Now, did this actually happen?

Did it? Anybody remember this spoof?

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by MilSpecs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:25 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Even when we Gen Xers were on the Commodore 64 back in the 80's, there were no Boomers around, the Commodore 64 was in the kids room, the Boomers were downstairs smoking dope and playing the Rolling Stones on vinyl. Only wealthy people could afford Mac, there were Mac's around, but not many. My buddy had one, his dad was a lawyer, but nobody else I knew had one.
The Boomers were using pcs at work, not to play. My whole life changed because I learned DOS at a time when not many people in offices could work with pcs or early networks. It opened doors that would have otherwise have been closed to me, and it happened before I met my husband in 1984.
The Boomers were not running the office 1977-1982, the oldest of them were in their early thirties, they weren't running shit at the point, so they didn't disperse those computers to the office, that was also GG's/War Babies. Your claim was not that Boomers went to work and found that somebody had put a computer on their desk, your claim was "Invented", then "dispersed", both claims have been corrected for you as being wrong, and yet you persist in ankle biting with "but, but, some Boomers used a computer at work", which was never your original claim(s), goalpost shifted wildly at this point, bad faith.
The businesses I worked in were owned by boomers. And you are still acting like Microsoft didn't exist.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:26 pm

Again, the point presented was that it could not be done. A demonstrably false claim. And when countered, you move the goal posts.
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