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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:24 am

Fife wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:15 am
What if we have rampant welfare dependence because of rampant welfare?

Hint: more muh state isn't going to help.

You're corrected - put tariffs up to protect domestic industry from PRC slave encampment so more domestic jobs are created, which allows for reduction in US nanny state since the proles would have the ability to feed themselves.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:27 am

I mean.. do you really think we cannot see how the rise of the welfare state was directly correlated to these batshit stupid "free trade" policies starting in the late 1990s?


Remember when these Mammon worshipers told us "free trade" would make more American jobs?? I do. Now they are penning articles to the effect that white working class communities need to just die.

They should count their blessings people have not yet broken out the tar and feathers.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:44 am

Fife - libertarinism opposes slavery as it denies liberty - by encouraging free trade with PRC (who essentially is proped up by slave labor) you are encouraging the denial of liberty to Asian proles.

So really - you're not following libertarian ideology.

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Re: Socialism

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:00 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:24 am
Fife wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:15 am
What if we have rampant welfare dependence because of rampant welfare?

Hint: more muh state isn't going to help.

You're corrected - put tariffs up to protect domestic industry from PRC slave encampment so more domestic jobs are created, which allows for reduction in US nanny state since the proles would have the ability to feed themselves.
As I’ve pointed out before, tariffs don’t really do that. They give a short term boost, but raise domestic prices. Along with a host of other negative effects.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:15 am

And people have repeatedly explained to you why that is wrong. Prices go up because the supply curve drops.

Either capitalism works or it does not. You cannot have it both ways, arguing the "free market" will work itself out to efficient pricing when it suits you, and then when that does not suit you, you argue that the supply and demand forces will not arrive at the efficient price. Lolbergs need to get their story straight.

Stop "educating" people about macroeconomics when you never even sat in a macroeconomics class for a single hour.

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Re: Socialism

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:15 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:15 am
And people have repeatedly explained to you why that is wrong. Prices go up because the supply curve drops.

Either capitalism works or it does not. You cannot have it both ways, arguing the "free market" will work itself out to efficient pricing when it suits you, and then when that does not suit you, you argue that the supply and demand forces will not arrive at the efficient price. Lolbergs need to get their story straight.

Stop "educating" people about macroeconomics when you never even sat in a macroeconomics class for a single hour.
The prices go up, and demand drops. There are actually TWO sides to that equation, professor.

Tariffs are not part of a Free Market.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:02 pm

You have no idea what you are talking about. The demand curve is not affected. The supply curve shifts and intersects at a higher efficient price.

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Re: Socialism

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:24 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:02 pm
You have no idea what you are talking about. The demand curve is not affected. The supply curve shifts and intersects at a higher efficient price.
Yeah dudes. We just raise the prices, and demand stays the same. Win win win!!
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:27 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:24 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:02 pm
You have no idea what you are talking about. The demand curve is not affected. The supply curve shifts and intersects at a higher efficient price.
Yeah dudes. We just raise the prices, and demand stays the same. Win win win!!

Stop before you dig any deeper.....

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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:28 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:27 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:24 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:02 pm
You have no idea what you are talking about. The demand curve is not affected. The supply curve shifts and intersects at a higher efficient price.
Yeah dudes. We just raise the prices, and demand stays the same. Win win win!!
Dmeand curve stays the same but is intersected at a different price point....someone did not take basic exonomics.


Stop before you dig any deeper.....