Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:43 pm

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote: It's also good for the firing pin.
Never had a mil-spec titanium firing pin fail me once actually, buy a Canadian AR I guess, Colt Canada has never let me down, and nothing gets dry fired more than a military rifle, troops doing safety precautions alone would rack up ten thousand pulls in no time flat.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by clubgop » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:02 am

It's becoming pretty common knowledge now, that the police no longer take prisoners if you're armed. Not even a warning in most cases.
What? Yes genius you start lighting it up the police aren't going to issue stern lectures, that part of the process is being skipped. Don't like it, write your congressman.

With every detail coming out of this story the 2 officers are looking better and better. Under fire and with both of them wounded and outgunned they closed with and took the target down.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:09 am

clubgop wrote:
It's becoming pretty common knowledge now, that the police no longer take prisoners if you're armed. Not even a warning in most cases.
What? Yes genius you start lighting it up the police aren't going to issue stern lectures, that part of the process is being skipped. Don't like it, write your congressman.

With every detail coming out of this story the 2 officers are looking better and better. Under fire and with both of them wounded and outgunned they closed with and took the target down.
Fair enough, but fact of the matter is, either by ineptitude or design; he let them, sidearm against AR is nolo contendere, unless the shooter is going to commit suicide by cop. Our Mounties died valiantly at Mayerthorpe and Moncton, but against an HK91 and M14, in the hands of shooters who were not messing about, they never stood a chance.

You've got an AR and the initiative, but the cops can close to pistol range without being blown away with ease, you're either a complete and total bumbler, or that is the end you were seeking all along.

They got lucky, this guy, was simply not the real deal, if it had been James Roszko, every single one of them would be dead.

All this talk of "confusion, stress, adrenaline, oh my"... I mean, ca'mon, it's an M4, it's the easiest rifle to shoot in the world, a child could shoot you in the face with one at fifty paces, even if he'd never fired a gun before. You're at pistol range, and he shoots you in the legs, with an M4? Sounds to me, like he meant to shoot you in the legs, probably because he wanted you to shoot him, to save him the trouble of doing it himself.

He's exchanging fire with them, at relatively close range, he's not running away, he's not trying to evade them, he just blasting away with an M4, and one cop gets hit in the ankle and that's it? Unless he was blind, that's some seriously good karma, either that, or the whole reason he was there.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:10 am

By the way, witnesses are saying that the assailant appeared "calm" as he "walked around shooting people", so again, stressed out of his mind and "overwhelmed by adrenaline"; doesn't sound like it. But really, once you've gone all the way to mass murder, you've probably moved beyond all your freaking out stages by then, what's left to freak out about? You've gone completely off the deep end, so nothing much left to worry about now, it's just a question of are you going to let them take you alive or was this a one way trip by design?
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Ex-California » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:37 am

clubgop wrote:
It's becoming pretty common knowledge now, that the police no longer take prisoners if you're armed. Not even a warning in most cases.
What? Yes genius you start lighting it up the police aren't going to issue stern lectures, that part of the process is being skipped. Don't like it, write your congressman.

With every detail coming out of this story the 2 officers are looking better and better. Under fire and with both of them wounded and outgunned they closed with and took the target down.
Heroic for sure, and they definitely changed the situation, but now we're going to all have to be paying for more Congressional security along with restrictions on what we can do around government officials. It will further cement the aristocracy

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:41 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
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The Republicans are quite obviously the Tories of America, the Lefties are clearly the Whigs.
US Whigs or U.K.?
Well they're similar, it's just a question of where sovereignty emanates from in a republic rather than a monarchy, the British Whigs opposed the absolute sovereignty of the hereditary king, the American whigs opposed the absolute sovereignty of the elected king. To the Left, is away from Executive authority, a Crown by any other name, and towards the unwashed masses.

Whereas a Tory would say "When The Crown Does It, That Means That It Is Not Ollegal", or "Contraband of War, By Any Means Necessary" or "NSA Domestic Wiretaps, War Meaures"; to wit; Commander-in-Chief Uber Alles.

Abraham Lincoln to Richard Nixon to George W, Bush; an absolutist Crown by any other name, to the American Tories.
Well the reason I ask is simple really, the Wigh party had gone through two versions as far as I knew. The one arguing against the crown, the other was against I think it was Jefferson's almost absolute power or what to them seemed like an over-reach of power.
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SEND HELP A TODDLER DRESSED AS SPODERMAN SHOT ME IN THE FACE WITH AN M4

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Post by C-Mag » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:15 am

Looking at the shooters facebook page and background, I really can't see any difference between him and the vast majority of Democrats. Hodgkinson was just a main stream Democrat. The stuff he was saying might look radical in hind sight of his actions, but it's the same kind of stuff Democrat and Left Wing Leaders have been saying and demonstrating. We've talked about some of them here. Celebrities, News and Democrat Political leaders send the same message.

Hodgkinson was just a modern Mainstream Democrat, he was no more radical, unhinged or mentally unstable than your average Democrat. It's the base average of the party right now.
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Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:23 am

C-Mag wrote:
Looking at the shooters facebook page and background, I really can't see any difference between him and the vast majority of Democrats. Hodgkinson was just a main stream Democrat. The stuff he was saying might look radical in hind sight of his actions, but it's the same kind of stuff Democrat and Left Wing Leaders have been saying and demonstrating. We've talked about some of them here. Celebrities, News and Democrat Political leaders send the same message.

Hodgkinson was just a modern Mainstream Democrat, he was no more radical, unhinged or mentally unstable than your average Democrat. It's the base average of the party right now.
That's the problem... he is the common Democrat, but they are going to play it off like he was on the fringes... (Although that is a lie)
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