How's that Obamacare Repeal Working Out For You?

[Speaker to Animals]

Here's the Competition Act. Many around here are smarter than me on this, tell me why it's bad or good.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-of ... m-act-2017


H.R. 372 - Competitive Health Insurance Reform Act of 2017
March 21, 2017
(House)

From my perspective, it doesn't really solve the problem, but removes the additional problems heaped on by Obamacare.

Trust busting the insurance industry is great and all, but what about breaking up the local monopolies controlled by hospital groups which are the main reason medical costs keep going up? What about limiting the span of pharmaceutical patents and the threat of voiding patents when the patent holder raises prices beyond some multiple of the cost of manufacturing?

More importantly.. Why the fuck don't we move people who can't normally get insurance to Medicare and spend all our time debating how to fund that instead?

Like BroGrump, I'm wonder if Ryan and the rest of us just got Trumped. Maybe DJT intended on this turd failing, maybe he didn't; but we've all seen how well he pivots and pulls victory from defeat. Maybe the path to correcting the Obamacare Hindenburg is to simply undermine it with a series of other laws, until, like the Hinderburg it just burns up and is only a skeletal shell. Then bulldoze the remains away.

I think this competition act is a good opening step, then slowly opening up Medicare as an option. Probably some more steps along the way to cleaning up the Hindenburg.

I can't see how it would help him. He spend, and lost, political capital pushing for this. He threatened the republican control of the House in the Midterms with it too.

Letting Obamacare implode is going to hurt him as well, even though the fault is on the democrats. No win here. He should have demanded a better plan or submitted his own bill. He needs to become a leader of the republican party, and he's not doing it.

[StCapps]

Did we just get faked out with 'an outrageous opening position'?

Awaiting the 5d oceanic basket-weaving explanation.

Said it was a shitty deal from the get go, and that Trump was dumb for focusing on health care out the gate, try to keep up sparky.

I'm awaiting the first Trumpette to explain to me how this fiasco was all part of the Art of a Deal.

[C-Mag]

Did we just get faked out with 'an outrageous opening position'?

Awaiting the 5d oceanic basket-weaving explanation.

Said it was a shitty deal from the get go, and that Trump was dumb for focusing on health care out the gate, try to keep up sparky.

I'm awaiting the first Trumpette to explain to me how this fiasco was all part of the Art of a Deal.

Yeah, I'm not sure, just addressed it in my previous post. Maybe, maybe not. Either way, I can't fault him a lot, afterall it's not his name on the Obamacare Hinderburg that is so bad it can't live a decade without life support.

[StCapps]

Paul Ryan is going to take most of the blame here, but this certainly hurts Trump in the short term no matter how well he is able to spin this.

[C-Mag]

Paul Ryan is going to take most of the blame here, but this certainly hurts Trump in the short term no matter how well he is able to spin this.

Agreed.

Besides, for Trump, 'it's the Economy Stupid'. That needs to be his focus for this country, not F-ing around with a bunch of Do Nothings in Congress.


EDIT:
You know what's funny, is Lefites, Dems, Liberalists and basically anyone that is not Establishment GOP can all agree the failure is a good thing, and are very happy it failed to get to a vote.

Where's Kath, Ooky, Atanamis and others. We can have a party now and celebrate together.
Have our own Anti-Ryancare Echo Chamber !

[C-Mag]

More importantly.. Why the fuck don't we move people who can't normally get insurance to Medicare and spend all our time debating how to fund that instead?

Like BroGrump, I'm wonder if Ryan and the rest of us just got Trumped. Maybe DJT intended on this turd failing, maybe he didn't; but we've all seen how well he pivots and pulls victory from defeat. Maybe the path to correcting the Obamacare Hindenburg is to simply undermine it with a series of other laws, until, like the Hinderburg it just burns up and is only a skeletal shell. Then bulldoze the remains away.

Letting Obamacare implode is going to hurt him as well, even though the fault is on the democrats. No win here. He should have demanded a better plan or submitted his own bill. He needs to become a leader of the republican party, and he's not doing it.

Well, IMO, Trump just did a pretty effective job of pinning whatever happens on Healthcare on the Dems. As soon as I find some video, I'll get it up, but here's the BLUF from DJT.

- We fell short on votes
- We could have done it with Democrat support, but there were no Democrat Votes
- So now we are going to move on to Tax Cuts and let Obamacare Implode
- We welcome the Democrats coming together with us to get a really good bill out
- When Obamacare implodes, the Pelosi, etc and the Dems own it, they didn't help with a solution

This is perfectly logical to me. The Dems and Obama gave us the Obama Hindenburg. Don't know if it was intentional, but I think DJT and the GOP just successfully reinforced that the Dems own this thing.

[TheReal_ND]

1. The idea that Democrats are going to humor Trump on anything so much as an increased allotment for the WH salad bar is asinine. Let's just forget about that and I doubt anyone had any illusions otherwise

2. Republicans still had enough votes to repeal this ostensibly. Ryan didn't want to. He wanted his shitty RyanCare.

3. Could Trump have done anything differently then throw that POS out? Idk. It's all fucked.

My takeaway from all of this is that nothing will get done. No immigration reform measures, no H1B reforms. No wall. Nothing.

Fuck it. I tried.

[C-Mag]

1. The idea that Democrats are going to humor Trump on anything so much as an increased allotment for the WH salad bar is asinine. Let's just forget about that and I doubt anyone had any illusions otherwise

2. Republicans still had enough votes to repeal this ostensibly. Ryan didn't want to. He wanted his shitty RyanCare.

3. Could Trump have done anything differently then throw that POS out? Idk. It's all fucked.

My takeaway from all of this is that nothing will get done. No immigration reform measures, no H1B reforms. No wall. Nothing.

Fuck it. I tried.

You are weak and faithless, the cuck bus if over there, why don't you jump on it. :snicker

[TheReal_ND]

I'm just being real. I'm already seeing the pattern emerging and nothing I can think of will change it. The fucking ninth circuit is circumventing constitutional presidential prerogatives concerning travel bans ffs. If that's any indicator of anything, what with the fact republicans don't want to repeal this shit like we voted for, wtf is there?

[Speaker to Animals]

I'm just being real. I'm already seeing the pattern emerging and nothing I can think of will change it. The fucking ninth circuit is circumventing constitutional presidential prerogatives concerning travel bans ffs. If that's any indicator of anything, what with the fact republicans don't want to repeal this shit like we voted for, wtf is there?

If it keeps playing out like this, we are breaking up to some extent. Which pretty much means Mexico will control the West Coast, Muslims the Great Lakes, and whatever the fuck goes in the Northeast.

The rest of us can control our borders as best we can.