THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:59 pm

Your really pissed off, nuke.

Like not even giving time to answer, little fucker.
TheReal_ND wrote:Perhaps demonstrate how they weren't sending their worst? No?

Google: mexico how to cross border pamphlet
Ok, let's do that.
Mexico's Foreign Ministry, however, said its intent in publishing the "Guide for the Mexican Migrant" was to warn migrants of the dangers they might face if they choose to slip illegally into the United States.

Gerónimo Gutiérrez, Mexico's under secretary for North American affairs, said the guide was written to dissuade people from making a clandestine journey or at least to warn them of the perils and legal risks should they decide to go. About 1.5 million copies of the guide were printed and distributed throughout the country in December.

"Just last year over 300 Mexicans died in their attempt to enter the United States, the vast majority if not all of them in search of a job," Mr. Gutiérrez said. "The Mexican government obviously has an obligation to take all actions possible in order to avoid the loss of life." He added, "It is a natural and fair response to consider this as an attempt to promote undocumented immigration, but that is absolutely not the intent of the Mexican government."
There you have it. A Mexican official at least admitting that it's an "natural and fair response to consider this as an attempt to promote undocumented immigration", hence accepting it's a poorly stated thing. I agree it is stupid move. But likely I think it was Fidel Castro who actually did this, dump by a government action criminals into the US. That was the truly intentional move by a government.

But that again isn't the question here.

Zlaxer asked just how on Earth people or the media could get this kind of idea of Trump being "hatefull". Well, because if you say that they are rapists and "some might be honest", naturally the media notice that and go off with that. That Mexicans are rapists. And in the end those that oppose Trump will likely see him being hateful. That's just how public discourse works.
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Post by MilSpecs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:01 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:That's not true. Millenials start at 82. Five years older than me, and I was ten when computers and internet blew up. Macs were around, but it wasn't until about windows 95 that shit really got hot. The first time I saw the internet was when my PE teacher went around setting up yahoo accounts for all the teachers in 5th grade. A year later I saw my first PC.
Even when we Gen Xers were on the Commodore 64 back in the 80's, there were no Boomers around, the Commodore 64 was in the kids room, the Boomers were downstairs smoking dope and playing the Rolling Stones on vinyl. Only wealthy people could afford Mac, there were Mac's around, but not many. My buddy had one, his dad was a lawyer, but nobody else I knew had one.
The Boomers were using pcs at work, not to play. My whole life changed because I learned DOS at a time when not many people in offices could work with pcs or early networks. It opened doors that would have otherwise have been closed to me, and it happened before I met my husband in 1984.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:02 pm

Still waiting for the look of revelation to dawn on a Finnlander's face. Not today.... it wasn't going to be today.

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Post by ssu » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:05 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Fresh Bumpage for waiting on a mongol to critic my stance on immigration.
Still have those propane tanks, soon-to-be-minority-fearful?

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Post by MilSpecs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:06 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
If I'm wrong I'll admit it, but I made my living on the first office pcs. I graduated in 77 and there were no pcs in the school. A couple of years later they were in offices. I saved my work on huge floppy disks and had to constantly maintain the pcs using early DOS. There were only a handful of commands. The internet came a few years later, and iirc it was an intranet first and then expanded.
Computers in the office; neither invented by Boomers, nor dispersed by them, your claims were "invented", followed by you backpedalling to "dispersed", the Boomers were handed the PC by the GG's/War Babies, then Gen X brought the PC to the home and went on the Internet with them, Boomers were skipped over in the process of birthing the age we are in now, so again; your blatant goalpost shifting notwithstanding, you're still wrong.
And the entire history of Microsoft didn't happen? Bill Gates brought pcs to the masses, using DOS. It was a civilization-changing event.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:08 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:That's not true. Millenials start at 82. Five years older than me, and I was ten when computers and internet blew up. Macs were around, but it wasn't until about windows 95 that shit really got hot. The first time I saw the internet was when my PE teacher went around setting up yahoo accounts for all the teachers in 5th grade. A year later I saw my first PC.
Even when we Gen Xers were on the Commodore 64 back in the 80's, there were no Boomers around, the Commodore 64 was in the kids room, the Boomers were downstairs smoking dope and playing the Rolling Stones on vinyl. Only wealthy people could afford Mac, there were Mac's around, but not many. My buddy had one, his dad was a lawyer, but nobody else I knew had one.
The Boomers were using pcs at work, not to play. My whole life changed because I learned DOS at a time when not many people in offices could work with pcs or early networks. It opened doors that would have otherwise have been closed to me, and it happened before I met my husband in 1984.
The Boomers were not running the office 1977-1982, the oldest of them were in their early thirties, they weren't running shit at the point, so they didn't disperse those computers to the office, that was also GG's/War Babies. Your claim was not that Boomers went to work and found that somebody had put a computer on their desk, your claim was "Invented", then "dispersed", both claims have been corrected for you as being wrong, and yet you persist in ankle biting with "but, but, some Boomers used a computer at work", which was never your original claim(s), goalpost shifted wildly at this point, bad faith.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:09 pm

ssu wrote:Well, because if you say that they are rapists and "some might be honest", naturally the media notice that and go off with that. That Mexicans are rapists. And in the end those that oppose Trump will likely see him being hateful. That's just how public discourse works.
Except that statement is true for every people of every nationality, so it isn't hateful to say some illegal immigrants from Mexico bring drugs and crime and some are good people. The media pretending that because he was talking about illegal immigration from Mexico at the time that he must be hateful towards Mexicans by saying such a thing, instead of just the illegal immigrants who bring drugs and crime, like he specifically said is not justifiable demonzation. That is not a natural leap, that is deliberate media slander.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by KerningChameleon » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:11 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:I'm simply using a term for our parents or grandparent's generation when they had nothing to fret about Mexicans and Squatemalns flooding their demographics. Remember, America was 80% white twenty years ago.
It's going to get a lot less white in the future and there is no way to stop it. I have no problem with it but if you think you can turn the tide on demographics, when the white demo is getting much older, you are wrong.
Tell that to Japan.
This got buried under the nuke/ssu feud and Crappy Beige Beep Boop Box Nostalgia/Generational Pedantry discussions, but here we go.

Japan is just getting less, period. They have the worse birth rate/death rate problems of anyone, and the clampdown on immigration has only intensified the issue for them. In a couple generations, China won't have to fire a shot, they'll just be able to stroll onto the mostly empty island and unhook a few geriatric millennials being nursed by Roombas from their oxygen tanks.

Keep in mind their government and culture is way more conservative, traditional, and authority respecting than ours and they still can't get their people making babies.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:12 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Even when we Gen Xers were on the Commodore 64 back in the 80's, there were no Boomers around, the Commodore 64 was in the kids room, the Boomers were downstairs smoking dope and playing the Rolling Stones on vinyl. Only wealthy people could afford Mac, there were Mac's around, but not many. My buddy had one, his dad was a lawyer, but nobody else I knew had one.
The Boomers were using pcs at work, not to play. My whole life changed because I learned DOS at a time when not many people in offices could work with pcs or early networks. It opened doors that would have otherwise have been closed to me, and it happened before I met my husband in 1984.
The Boomers were not running the office 1977-1982, the oldest of them were in their early thirties, they weren't running shit at the point, so they didn't disperse those computers to the office, that was also GG's/War Babies. Your claim was not that Boomers went to work and found that somebody had put a computer on their desk, your claim was "Invented", then "dispersed", both claims have been corrected for you as being wrong, and yet you persist in ankle biting with "but, but, some Boomers used a computer at work", which was never your original claim(s), goalpost shifted wildly at this point, bad faith.
This is true. My Grandmama was using computers in the civil service on Gillem and McPherson before any boomers were around.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:12 pm

ssu wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Fresh Bumpage for waiting on a mongol to critic my stance on immigration.
Still have those propane tanks, soon-to-be-minority-fearful?
Yes I own some propane tanks. I think you are referring to the funny Volkswagen gif I posted of a Muslim trying to blow himself up along side the comment "when will she be stopped?"

If you wish to report that post might I direct you here Mogoloid:

https://tips.fbi.gov

Bear in mind they are going to have to take a number, what with all the Muslims and shit.