Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:46 am

I have been reading Verboten sources in an attempt to understand the conflict better.
Merely questioning the blue and yellow flag or presenting a source opposite of Western State Media gets you labeled an apologist for Putin. But I do it anyway.
Patriarch Kirill, the spiritual leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, said Sunday that the conflict in Donbas is a "metaphysical" battle against a godless international order that rewards governments which embrace sin and punishes those who embrace God's laws.

"For eight years there have been attempts to destroy what exists in the Donbass," Kirill said. "And in the Donbass there is rejection, a fundamental rejection of the so-called values that are offered today by those who claim world power."

"Today there is such a test for the loyalty of this government, a kind of pass to that "happy" world -- the world of excess consumption -- the world of visible 'freedom.' Do you know what this test is? The test is very simple and at the same time terrible -- this is a gay parade. The demands on many to hold a gay parade are a test of loyalty to that very powerful world, and we know that if people or countries reject these demands, then they do not enter into that world, they become strangers to it,"
Note: 70% of Russians are Byzantine Orthodox and they have been building tens of thousands of churches and cathedrals since 1991. Many Russians believe the church is what allowed them to eventually prevail against Communism. From my reading, many Russians see this as a Crusade against the corrupted west.

Translation
https://www-patriarchia-ru.translate.go ... r_pto=wapp

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http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62947
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:47 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:49 am
If this escalates, my prediction is that a significant portion of the American right wing, once again as they were in the lead up to our war with the Third Reich, will be completely marginalized.
it is actually starting to drive me away from the right

not so much that I reject the America Firsters

but they are rejecting me for siding with the people in Ukraine against the Kremlin

its' everywhere, all these supposed "conservatives" just spreading Disinformatsiya for the Kremlin

there's no getting through to them, they are more Russia Bot than the actual Russia Bots
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Xenophon » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:52 am

Some clarifications:

Chechens are fighting on both sides.
Neo-Nazi groups are fighting on both sides.
Ukrainian forces have shelled their own civilians and have reported it as enemy fire.
Russia has killed civilians.
Ukrainian Forces are using hospitals and elementary schools as operation bases.
Ukrainian victories in the war are almost 100% propaganda.
Globalism Inc. has thrown their lot in with the Ukrainians in order to protect their playground. <--- This is the important one.
Russian viewpoints on the conflict have been entirely boxed out of the public space.

Taking any of the propaganda about the conflict to heart is a foolish endeavor. Although it seems to me that if most of your claims about victory turn out to be completely false, you're probably not winning. If the entire Homosexual Globalist Empire tries to silence you, you probably aren't talking total bullshit.

The Reddit Foreign Legion getting blown up dropped the scales from the eyes of a lot of people online.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Xenophon » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:55 am

You cannot view this conflict in a vacuum. It goes beyond, "Russia Bad!, Russia Evil! We good guys!"

Russia may be bad and Russia may be evil. But if they are sticking a thumb in the eye of my enemies, then I hope they drive the thumb all the way through to the brain.

No Russian ever told me I didn't have the right to raise my children as I see fit.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:56 am

Xenophon wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:52 am
Some clarifications:

Chechens are fighting on both sides.
Neo-Nazi groups are fighting on both sides.
Ukrainian forces have shelled their own civilians and have reported it as enemy fire.
Russia has killed civilians.
Ukrainian Forces are using hospitals and elementary schools as operation bases.
Ukrainian victories in the war are almost 100% propaganda.
Globalism Inc. has thrown their lot in with the Ukrainians in order to protect their playground. <--- This is the important one.
Russian viewpoints on the conflict have been entirely boxed out of the public space.

Taking any of the propaganda about the conflict to heart is a foolish endeavor. Although it seems to me that if most of your claims about victory turn out to be completely false, you're probably not winning. If the entire Homosexual Globalist Empire tries to silence you, you probably aren't talking total bullshit.

The Reddit Foreign Legion getting blown up dropped the scales from the eyes of a lot of people online.
Excellent Post !
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:57 am

Xenophon wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:55 am
You cannot view this conflict in a vacuum. It goes beyond, "Russia Bad!, Russia Evil! We good guys!"

Russia may be bad and Russia may be evil. But if they are sticking a thumb in the eye of my enemies, then I hope they drive the thumb all the way through to the brain.

No Russian ever told me I didn't have the right to raise my children as I see fit.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:00 am

Xenophon wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:52 am
Some clarifications:

Chechens are fighting on both sides.
Neo-Nazi groups are fighting on both sides.
Ukrainian forces have shelled their own civilians and have reported it as enemy fire.
Russia has killed civilians.
Ukrainian Forces are using hospitals and elementary schools as operation bases.
Ukrainian victories in the war are almost 100% propaganda.
Globalism Inc. has thrown their lot in with the Ukrainians in order to protect their playground. <--- This is the important one.
Russian viewpoints on the conflict have been entirely boxed out of the public space.

Taking any of the propaganda about the conflict to heart is a foolish endeavor. Although it seems to me that if most of your claims about victory turn out to be completely false, you're probably not winning. If the entire Homosexual Globalist Empire tries to silence you, you probably aren't talking total bullshit.

The Reddit Foreign Legion getting blown up dropped the scales from the eyes of a lot of people online.
you're not convincing me

there is no justification for the Russian invasion, it is entirely under false rubric

it's a preemptive aggressive war of annihilation by the Nuremberg Principles

the Ukrainians are well within their rights to defend themselves by any means,

up to and including including WMD, and that is by the laws of armed conflict
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:01 am

Xenophon wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:55 am
You cannot view this conflict in a vacuum.
you cannot tell me how to view anything

but since I have been studying the conflict in great detail for many years

I have the perspective to make command decisions therein
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:03 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:47 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:49 am
If this escalates, my prediction is that a significant portion of the American right wing, once again as they were in the lead up to our war with the Third Reich, will be completely marginalized.
it is actually starting to drive me away from the right

not so much that I reject the America Firsters

but they are rejecting me for siding with the people in Ukraine against the Kremlin

its' everywhere, all these supposed "conservatives" just spreading Disinformatsiya for the Kremlin

there's no getting through to them, they are more Russia Bot than the actual Russia Bots
It drives me back to the unit. The only thing that ever mattered, really. Everything else is nihilism. I don't even care anymore. Does it further the mission? No. Fuck it, then.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:06 am

Xenophon wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:55 am

Russia may be bad and Russia may be evil. But if they are sticking a thumb in the eye of my enemies, then I hope they drive the thumb all the way through to the brain.
and there it is

you are acting out of hatred; the enemy of your enemy is your friend

that's your right, but I simply cant follow you there
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