Should Kath Be Allowed To Continue As Moderator?

[K@th]

once he finds out.

It's extra cute how you think Martin doesn't know what's going on here.

Comedy gold.

[StCapps]

once he finds out.

It's extra cute how you think Martin doesn't know what's going on here.

Comedy gold.

If he did, and he believes what he espouses regarding liberty, that makes no sense. Either he's full of shit and doesn't believe in liberty like he claims, or he hasn't gotten wind of your bullshit yet. It's one or the other.

[Montegriffo]

Not a good reason to censor anyone on this forum, because you didn't find their joke funny. Fuck off Censorship Cunt. Censorship because of unfunny jokes, also not a rule enforced consistently around here. Can you be any more lame?

Not because it wasn't a funny joke, because it wasn't even a joke. A personal attack repeated ad infinitum stops being a joke very quickly.

So if you joke it's okay, if he's serious, censorship is required. Also a stupid fucking reason to censor someone. You are a fucking pussy.

No, if a repeated personal attack rather than an argument it has no place on a discussion forum.
Clubby didn't repeat the accusation over and over because it was funny, he did it because he doesn't like my opinions and wants me to stop posting. That is censorship.
His posts were edited because the site owner and his moderator agree.

[BjornP]

If a professor at a university lecture calls for SJW protestors to be free to engage in discussion as long they do so following some basic rules, like allowing the opposing side to speak without being drowned out by screams of "you're a racist!", he is censoring the SJW's? Their right to talk about their SJW views? He's not simply moderating how the debate should go on?

It would be more like an SJW professor claiming to want an open discussion only to shout "you're a pedophile!!!" when somebody brings up contradicting evidence to her claim, and to then kick people out of the classroom for mocking her about it.

Again, this bitch is censoring people for doing to her friends what she does to other people all the time. You can be a faggot and call that "moderation", all day, but it's still shitty behavior, and not called "moderation" in America. That's censorship. Look up the word in an English dictionary.

I think by now I actually master the English language far better than you, StA. Deleting a post of someone calling someone else a pedophile to rile them up or insult them, is not censorship. It's moderation. Kath is inconsistent in the sense that if she decides that it's her job to protect people from getting insulted, slandered, mocked or demeaned, she ought to apply that to everyone. But it's still not censorship to do so.



And has she called you a pedophile as many times as some people here have called Monte one? Really? I don't deny that she's not moderating well, she's inconsistent in that. After all, you say she's deleting posts when one of her friends gets insulted. Well, there are loads and loads of posts by clubby calling Monte a pedo that are not deleted. She's way behind schedule if she wanted to protect her friend all the time.

[StCapps]

No, if a repeated personal attack rather than an argument it has no place on a discussion forum.

It does on a forum that actually believes in free speech. Fuck your calls for censorship, you whinny little bitch.

[StCapps]

Lots of crossover between moderation and censorship that Bjorn refuses to recognize. The semantic games he's playing, that is next level stupidity.

[K@th]

And has she called you a pedophile as many times as some people here have called Monte one? Really? I don't deny that she's not moderating well, she's inconsistent in that. After all, you say she's deleting posts when one of her friends gets insulted. Well, there are loads and loads of posts by clubby calling Monte a pedo that are not deleted. She's way behind schedule if she wanted to protect her friend all the time.

The claims that I delete posts are unfounded. I've never done that.

I've removed 3-4 sentences that specifically call out how a genital of a forum member is used to penetrate children. People report posts and I mostly just close the reports - people can say what they want. I delete far more reports without action than not. Really, it's just the graphic stuff. Clubby can be.... quite detailed.

I'm sorry that doesn't live up to your criteria, but in 15 months, I've deleted a few hundred bots, dozens of spam posts, and edited out graphic content from approximately 4 posts. Yeah, horrible me. Martin should totally fire me.

[StCapps]

edited out graphic content from approximately 4 posts.

You are even worse than I thought then. I've been underselling just how bad you are at this job. Four times?!? You are a fucking loser, hot damn.

[K@th]

edited out graphic content from approximately 4 posts.

You are even worse than I thought then. I've been underselling just how bad you are at this job. Four times?!? You are a fucking loser, hot damn.

lol - now THAT'S funny.

[BjornP]

Where is the censorship in my example? Seriously curious where you see the censorship.

If a couple of SJW protestors stormed Jordan Peterson's lecture, and Jordan Peterson called for security to kick them out, he'd be censoring them? Is the act of kicking them out an act of censorship or an act of moderating when and where and in what form they can protest?

Stopping people from saying what they want, that's censorship. Yes Peterson would be censoring the SJWs in that scenario, but he would have the right to do so obviously. Censorship is not always bad, Kath's brand of censorship being applied to the MHF, that clearly is a bad form of censorship and bad moderation on top of it.

You seriously don't see it?? In my example, Jordan Peterson isn't stopping anyone from saying what they want. He's setting rules in place for HOW one should express themselves, not THAT they can express themselves. If you invited a guest into your house along with your other friends and family, and your guest suddenly started yelling and calling your girlfriend a whore for wearing a dress he thinks is too racy, is it not your right to kick that person out of your house? Is that censorship? Would you treat him differently if, instead of calling your girlfriend a whore, he quietly tried to start a conversation about appropriate clothing styles with your girlfriend - yet still did his best to show her respect?