The left vs the 23% white separatist contingent

[SuburbanFarmer]

Hey, member that time I posted a definition of Ethno-State?

ethnostate
English
Etymology

ethno- +‎ state
Noun

ethnostate (plural ethnostates)

A political unit that is populated by and run in the interest of an ethnic group

Yeahhhh... I member.

Notice how the definition doesn't only include "....run in the interests of all ethnic groups of the same race", that is only one particular variety of ethnostate, yet some folks seem to think it's the only kind of ethno state that there is.

Protip: Ethnic Groups are real. Races aren't.

[heydaralon]

Hey, member that time I posted a definition of Ethno-State?



Yeahhhh... I member.

Notice how the definition doesn't only include "....run in the interests of all ethnic groups of the same race", that is only one particular variety of ethnostate, yet some folks seem to think it's the only kind of ethno state that there is.

Protip: Ethnic Groups are real. Races aren't.

Ok another semantics question GCF: what do you consider a race, and what do you consider an ethnic group?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Notice how the definition doesn't only include "....run in the interests of all ethnic groups of the same race", that is only one particular variety of ethnostate, yet some folks seem to think it's the only kind of ethno state that there is.

Protip: Ethnic Groups are real. Races aren't.

Ok another semantics question GCF: what do you consider a race, and what do you consider an ethnic group?

A race would be the nebulous idea of “white”, while an ethnic group would be people of Western European descent. You could probably narrow it down to regions, like Catalonian vs Frankish, etc.

[heydaralon]

Protip: Ethnic Groups are real. Races aren't.

Ok another semantics question GCF: what do you consider a race, and what do you consider an ethnic group?

A race would be the nebulous idea of “white”, while an ethnic group would be people of Western European descent. You could probably narrow it down to regions, like Catalonian vs Frankish, etc.

Well, I'm not sold on the idea of an ethno state. That probably would have been a good discussion to have 300 years ago in America if we wanted to go that route and not take slaves etc. I think our best bet now is to just try to weather out the BLM riots and SJW nonsense the best we can despite my feelings on it. I work around black people and hispanics on a daily basis, and I get along with them, though I would not discuss politics lol. I do think this is an interesting thread though, regardless of my personal beliefs on the viability of an ethno state (I don't think it would work in America, and the costs would outweigh the benefits). I don't like this tear down everything mentality on the left, but we have gone quite awhile without another civil war, and I think splitting the country up that way would be throwing the baby out of with the bathwater. In the South blacks and whites have hated each other but managed to live side by side for generations without fullscale ethnic cleansing. This is no small feat, considering the kind of shit you see happening in third world countries like Iraq, Rwanda, Sudan, or India. That being said, I doubt the friction between different groups will ever go away.

But I'm not sure that I agree with you on race vs. ethnicity. Despite being the same species, I see strong physical differences between blacks and whites, asians and hispanics. I'm not going to open the can of worms on IQ or anything like that, because I don't know enough to make an argument one way or the other. But to me, saying that race doesn't exist is getting into an academic line of thinking that ignores the obvious. You are entitled to your own opinion of course, but it seems silly to ignore these obvious differences. I'm not talking about making value judgements on whether certain races are good or bad, I'm just saying that these physical differences are objective observable phenomena.

sorry for the long post dude. I just got to thinking about this.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Ok another semantics question GCF: what do you consider a race, and what do you consider an ethnic group?

A race would be the nebulous idea of “white”, while an ethnic group would be people of Western European descent. You could probably narrow it down to regions, like Catalonian vs Frankish, etc.

Well, I'm not sold on the idea of an ethno state. That probably would have been a good discussion to have 300 years ago in America if we wanted to go that route and not take slaves etc. I think our best bet now is to just try to weather out the BLM riots and SJW nonsense the best we can despite my feelings on it. I work around black people and hispanics on a daily basis, and I get along with them, though I would not discuss politics lol. I do think this is an interesting thread though, regardless of my personal beliefs on the viability of an ethno state (I don't think it would work in America, and the costs would outweigh the benefits). I don't like this tear down everything mentality on the left, but we have gone quite awhile without another civil war, and I think splitting the country up that way would be throwing the baby out of with the bathwater. In the South blacks and whites have hated each other but managed to live side by side for generations without fullscale ethnic cleansing. This is no small feat, considering the kind of shit you see happening in third world countries like Iraq, Rwanda, Sudan, or India. That being said, I doubt the friction between different groups will ever go away.

But I'm not sure that I agree with you on race vs. ethnicity. Despite being the same species, I see strong physical differences between blacks and whites, asians and hispanics. I'm not going to open the can of worms on IQ or anything like that, because I don't know enough to make an argument one way or the other. But to me, saying that race doesn't exist is getting into an academic line of thinking that ignores the obvious. You are entitled to your own opinion of course, but it seems silly to ignore these obvious differences. I'm not talking about making value judgements on whether certain races are good or bad, I'm just saying that these physical differences are objective observable phenomena.

sorry for the long post dude. I just got to thinking about this.

Well, consider the different black people around you. You can clearly tell that they come from different African tribes, just by appearance.
Or a white ginger vs. a swarthy italian guy vs. a hearty German. With experience, you can spot the difference between a Paki and an Indian, or a Korean vs. Chinese person. There are obvious regional differences, other than a broad "race".

The problem with using something like "race" is that there is no clear boundary. There's only culture, and that's all there's ever been. We have regional differences, that are all fading into the past, as we intermarry and breed. There will never be a more divided species than we are right now. We're all turning light brown, and I'm fine with that. Our grandkids will look at this shit with great confusion.

[K@th]

We're all turning light brown, and I'm fine with that. Our grandkids will look at this shit with great confusion.

HH 32, Globalization Unto Death. Dan makes that point.

[Speaker to Animals]

We're all turning light brown, and I'm fine with that. Our grandkids will look at this shit with great confusion.

HH 32, Globalization Unto Death. Dan makes that point.

The "diversity cult" shows their true Orwellian nature.

Oh, you're a racist who hates diversity. You should agree that all races ought to be obliterated into a brown globalist mono-culture, because we love diversity so much we want to destroy actual human diversity from the planet.

[SuburbanFarmer]

We're all turning light brown, and I'm fine with that. Our grandkids will look at this shit with great confusion.

HH 32, Globalization Unto Death. Dan makes that point.

The "diversity cult" shows their true Orwellian nature.

Oh, you're a racist who hates diversity. You should agree that all races ought to be obliterated into a brown globalist mono-culture, because we love diversity so much we want to destroy actual human diversity from the planet.

It's a natural side effect of connecting the world together. No active government policies needed. I happen to like Celtic/Germanic culture, and I hope that they survive somewhat, but it probably won't, in the long term. Look at the membership of your local German-American club, for instance.

Forming some little enclave of idiocy isn't going to stop or change it in the least. As I pointed out PAGES AGO, if we sealed off all the borders tomorrow, we'd still turn brown, as US Citizens continue fucking other US Citizens, and blending together. All you're doing is limiting the genetic pool, and opening the population up to disease.

[K@th]

The "diversity cult" shows their true Orwellian nature.

Oh, you're a racist who hates diversity. You should agree that all races ought to be obliterated into a brown globalist mono-culture, because we love diversity so much we want to destroy actual human diversity from the planet.

I offered no opinion. I only stated a fact. Dan DID say that. I made no commentary on how I feel about that.

[Montegriffo]