Net Neutrality

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:14 am

Fronting like the FCC regulating the internet results in good regulation.
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Funny stuff.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:17 am

Also, Comcast throttles all the time, why do you think you are not guaranteed the speed you pay for but "up to"?
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:31 am

Net Neutrality was just a play for the FCC to poorly regulate the internet, all the other shit they claim to stop ISPs from doing, that was just to sell you on handing over the internet to them, it was all a ruse.

The FCC played the big corporation boogeyman card, and some of you fell for it, not realizing that federal government is going to do an even shittier job than the big corporations, despite how shitty of a job the FCC does at regulating TV and Radio, some still can't see the obvious starring them right in the face when it comes the FCC regulating the internet. This time around they'll do a better job, right?
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Grow up, the Net Neutrality legislation currently implemented, was a con. It's a fluffy sounding term to make the legislation sound better than actually is.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:01 am

StCapps wrote:Net Neutrality was just a play for the FCC to poorly regulate the internet, all the other shit they claim to stop ISPs from doing, that was just to sell you on handing over the internet to them, it was all a ruse.

The FCC played the big corporation boogeyman card, and some of you fell for it, not realizing that federal government is going to do an even shittier job than the big corporations, despite how shitty of a job the FCC does at regulating TV and Radio, some still can't see the obvious starring them right in the face when it comes the FCC regulating the internet. This time around they'll do a better job, right?
:roll:

Grow up, the Net Neutrality legislation currently implemented, was a con. It's a fluffy sounding term to make the legislation sound better than actually is.
I don't think that anyone is confused about that. The issue is between two evils, at this point.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:03 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
StCapps wrote:Net Neutrality was just a play for the FCC to poorly regulate the internet, all the other shit they claim to stop ISPs from doing, that was just to sell you on handing over the internet to them, it was all a ruse.

The FCC played the big corporation boogeyman card, and some of you fell for it, not realizing that federal government is going to do an even shittier job than the big corporations, despite how shitty of a job the FCC does at regulating TV and Radio, some still can't see the obvious starring them right in the face when it comes the FCC regulating the internet. This time around they'll do a better job, right?
:roll:

Grow up, the Net Neutrality legislation currently implemented, was a con. It's a fluffy sounding term to make the legislation sound better than actually is.
I don't think that anyone is confused about that. The issue is between two evils, at this point.
Companies are easier to take on than the Government. If the Government takes you on, you have almost no recourse.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:04 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:I don't think that anyone is confused about that. The issue is between two evils, at this point.
I'd be more scarred of the FCC than the big ISPs.
/shrugs

The lesser evil here is pretty obvious and it's not the freakin' FCC.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:43 am

Good news. Facebook will now call the cops on you for wrong-think.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-2 ... ser-safety
This is software to save lives. Facebook’s new “proactive detection” artificial intelligence technology will scan all posts for patterns of suicidal thoughts, and when necessary send mental health resources to the user at risk or their friends, or contact local first-responders. By using AI to flag worrisome posts to human moderators instead of waiting for user reports, Facebook can decrease how long it takes to send help.
Earlier this year Zuckerberg wrote in a public post that “There have been terribly tragic events - like suicides, some live streamed - that perhaps could have been prevented if someone had realized what was happening and reported them sooner... Artificial intelligence can help provide a better approach.” And in a post yesterday announcing the new AI suicide prevention tool integration, he wrote that “In the future, AI will be able to understand more of the subtle nuances of language, and will be able to identify different issues beyond suicide as well, including quickly spotting more kinds of bullying and hate.”

Naturally, we must ask: what does Mark mean by the eerily ambiguous reference to "we will be able to identify different issues beyond suicide as well.."?
Unfortunately, after TechCrunch asked if there was a way for users to opt out, of having their posts a Facebook spokesperson responded that users cannot opt out. They noted that the feature is designed to enhance user safety, and that support resources offered by Facebook can be quickly dismissed if a user doesn’t want to see them.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by brewster » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:57 pm

The Conservative wrote:Also, Comcast throttles all the time, why do you think you are not guaranteed the speed you pay for but "up to"?
True that. I just noticed they uncapped my torrent DL, that had been at 1mb/s for ages. Guess they want to look clean for this fight. As for the rest of this discussion, it just proves how the GOP and Fox have perfected how to get people to vote against their own interest.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by nmoore63 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:42 pm

brewster wrote:
The Conservative wrote:Also, Comcast throttles all the time, why do you think you are not guaranteed the speed you pay for but "up to"?
True that. I just noticed they uncapped my torrent DL, that had been at 1mb/s for ages. Guess they want to look clean for this fight. As for the rest of this discussion, it just proves how the GOP and Fox have perfected how to get people to vote against their own interest.
It’s not against my own interest.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by tue4t » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:51 pm

Fife wrote:http://www.dailywire.com/news/24004/eve ... achatrian#
Google is a huge proponent of Net Neutrality. Their website is outfitted with an uppity “We Stand Together. Support a #FreeAndOpen Internet” slogan.

However, Google is privy to the fact that smaller companies, competitors, and start-ups bereft of the resources and capital available to build a global network infrastructure and peer with providers, must instead become customers of higher tier service providers to reach end users.

And what better way to stifle competition in the market, than have these smaller companies subject to a bevy of regulations you’re free of.

Enforcing “net neutrality” does the exact opposite of what its proponents claim. It results in an internet where a handful of large corporations have access to peering agreements with large transit providers (what some people refer to as "the fast lane"), and the rest are subject to far fewer options in terms of services, and even upon growing and gaining market share, will be denied the opportunity to shop around for different ISP plans that suit them best.
Also wanted to point out the irony that google decided to derank RT in their algorithms while simultaneously supporting net neutrality. Also see daily stormer incident.

Whole bill is a farce. Corporate interests want to shift their infrastructure costs onto consumers.